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Old 09-14-2008, 12:15 AM
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Almost. I'm looking into doing travel nursing that would take me just about anywhere that needs me. Wish I could start now, but with kids, I can't until they are gone.

Besides, I have to get my BSN first.
Sounds like you really love what your doing, I hope you can live your dream of traveling.



In the mean time you can work the bugs out that special dinner of your...
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:16 AM
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Your reading comprehension rivals your grammar.

The citation said he'd felt these feelings since he's a kid. Common excuse to embrace the lifestyle.



Likewise, SOMETHING is affecting your reading comprehension. So, to make things clearer for you, Mr. Kettle, it is for his gayness which he said he'd felt since he was a kid.
You obviously did not read the interview ....

It may be an excuse but we all make excuses when we sin against God, Jekyll ... ask the adulterer, fornicator, thief, murderer

... but it's your inisistence he was living a lie ... when he penned those songs that is WAY OFF BASE ... and mocking those who are "eulogizing" a lie ... that seems TWISTED, HIGHLY SPECULATIVE and EVEN UNFACTUAL

truth is ... that he openly admits fighting ... this urge ... and doing so for an extended period of time ... much like many who struggle againt a laundry list of sins ....

struggling does not equate to commiting the sin ...

Here is a quote from his Blade interview that blew this story open ...

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It got to the point by the early-to-mid ’00s that keeping his homosexuality hidden had become an increasingly wearying notion.

“You get to be 50-some years old and you go, ‘This isn’t changing.’ I still feel the same way. I am the same way. I just can’t do it anymore.’

There was some exploration of “ex-gay” therapy though Boltz never attended an “ex-gay” camp or formal seminar.

“I basically lived an ‘ex-gay’ life — I read every book, I read all the scriptures they use, I did everything to try and change.”

Indirectly, this spilled out into his songwriting. Boltz says even though he never told his fans the specifics of his struggle, it added a dimension to his lyrics that resonated.

“It’s there on every single record,” he says. “That struggle of accepting myself and my feelings. There’s a lot of pain there and it connected with a lot of people. They weren’t struggling with the same thing necessarily but we all suffer with our humanity.”
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But on the personal side, the pain of the closet kept a tight grip.

His physical relationship with his wife hadn’t been torturous. He says it helped that he felt genuine affection for her, if not sexual desire.

“Sex was based on the fact that we loved each other and I wanted to make her happy,” he says. “I had sexual drives as well. You know, it’s like I never had to talk myself into having a relationship with her or that I was going, ‘Oh God, here we’re going to bed again’ — it wasn’t that. I loved her and we had a very full life; it’s just that inside, deep inside, it really wasn’t who I was.”

Aside from sex, Boltz says this eventually took a toll on the couple’s intimacy.

“It wasn’t something that manifested itself in that we never had sex … but how can you truly be intimate with someone when you don’t know who they are, when they won’t reveal themselves to you … I thought if I can’t say this to the people I love, then what kind of life is this?”
Of course he's given up in his struggle against his personal temptations ... and for this he has made excuses and rationalizations...

yet you fail to make a valid case for your assumptions and blanket statements and can't dig out of the illogical hole you've dug yourself in ... again.
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A three-way micturition contest. I love it!!!!
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:17 AM
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Calling it a night long day, we had church today, pastor going out town Sunday....So we are going to sleep in ....Night all
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:18 AM
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Sounds like you really love what your doing, I hope you can live your dream of traveling.



In the mean time you can work the bugs out that special dinner of your...
I have never been anywhere west, as there's been no reason to go there. I'd love the opportunity. In addition, the nursing agency pays for all expenses, even housing, and pays about double what I make now. So I'm looking forward to doing that when the time comes. San Diego and Phoenix are the top two.
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Brazil wasn't one of the states mentioned.

However, it's my dream to travel with a group of nurses and physicians who go to a place somewhere on the planet once a year for about two weeks to attend to people who otherwise would never be able to see a doctor. I hope to start doing that when my kids are gone from the house in about four years.
well, put us on your list...
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My daughter said I'm going to church with her in the morning....LOL!

She's trying to keep me on the straight and narrow since I've been falling off the road lately.
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well, put us on your list...
I sure would love the opportunity just to visit...for any reason.
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And who, oh all knowing Kettle, do I remain consistent on?? Whom do I have in my collection that engages in this kind of lie?
I'd rather not .... but Tulsa might be a starting point if we were prospecting.
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:37 AM
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This is sad news. I have needed mercy so much in my life, and as I get older recognize that it has been extended way more than I could ever deserve, that all I can say is, "God, extend your Mercy and Grace to Ray Boltz while there is yet time".
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