Teaching To Speak In Tongues

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Admin

Stmatthew,

Are you using scripture to call Keith ignorant?

The verse of scripture I posted does not specify anyone specifically. And the word "Ignorant" used in the verse is not calling someone stupid, but "wrong in their understanding". Here is the definition:



IGNORANT - (gr) agnoeō (äg-no-e'-ō)

verb

1) to be ignorant, not to know

2) not to understand, unknown

3) to err or sin through mistake, to be wrong


So IF there had been any implication, it was simply that I believe Keith was wrong in his belief.

[Sherri]

[QUOTE=Stephen Hoover;465314]Is wanting to puke a sign of anything? Cause I think I have that...

Just curious, does it really mean that in French?[/QUOTE]Well, since thank you is "merci" and God is "Dieu", I doubt it.

[Hoovie]

[QUOTE=Sherri;465357]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Is wanting to puke a sign of anything? Cause I think I have that...

Just curious, does it really mean that in French?[/QUOTE]


Well, since thank you is "merci" and God is "Dieu", I doubt it.

Yeah - I figured as much.

[Sam]

[QUOTE=Stephen Hoover;465371]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Yeah - I figured as much.

Joe Duke might not have been a scholar when it comes to romance languages.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Back when Icame into pentecost, evangelist Joe Duke was with us. Those who knew hi said he prayed thru hundreds.

He would stop a seeker and tell them to say "Waliduea". he would then tell them that menat Thank God in French.

He'd tell them to say it over and over and then with one hand on their head and the other hand holding their hand he'd begin to push their head back and forth.

He said repeating "Waliduea" helped them "get that double lick" on their tongue.

Joe Duke was an Ultra Con, involved in the formation of the AMF and a great faith preacher. BUT I can not condone what he did with his Waliduea instructions.

So glad that today, that I am a "one stepper". I don't have to worry if you spoke in tongues or got duped.

My faith rests firmly in the work of the cross, not in the works of my flesh.

I checked on this with some men that were around Joe Duke's ministry, and they say this "Waliduea" never happened.

[Sister Alvear]

Joe Duke...I knew him...

[PMBrown]

I received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost on a Thursday night in a UPC church in Tuscaloosa, AL when I was 10 years old. My brother and I had been baptised two days earlier in the revival. On this particular evening the Spirit was moving and many people were kneeling in prayer at the alter, standing and singing, or under the power of God near the front of the church, including my entire family. I was alone in the pew where our family sat standing with my hands raised simply quietly praising the Lord when I felt living joy course through my body. God suddenly became more real to me that he had ever had before. When I said "I love you Jesus" it came from the very depths my being, powered by the anointing of the Holy Spirit, and the surrounding world suddenly seemed to cease to exist. It was just me and God. I was vaguely aware that I was jumping up and down uncontrollably, and I jumped like a rabbit out of my pew, down the center aisle, and up to the front in the alter area with my eyes closed the whole way, shouting the entire time, tears down my cheeks. The next thing I know, I'm on my back on the carpet, vibrating under the power of God as if I had grabbed a hold of a live wire. The words "I love you Jesus" that I was still repeating began to take on a different character, my lips were stammering and I found I could not form the words properly, and I began to utter words in another tongue. I was on that floor lost in the Holy Ghost for over two hours.
I suppose the point for relating this, other than the sheer joy being able to share this wonderful experience with fellow Spirit-filled believers, is to simply speak of how God moved in a sovereign way in a ten-year-old's life. No one had to "pray me through". There was no tarrying at the alter in countless hours of toil. There was simply the open heart of a child to the touch of the Master, and He gloriously responded. I belive Sherri made a very important observation when she said "I don't remember anyone receiving it easily, other than kids at youth camp" (post #76 on this thread). For some reason children seem far easier to receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost than us older folk. They haven't had the time to get conditioned into the mindset that they need to work for it. There's an openess and a faith there that gets results. According to my recollection, my experience was not the norm in our church. Most of the saints got it through a struggle of sweat and tears, yet I saw how truely easy it was to get the baptism of the Holy Ghost especially in the years since I left the UPC. It warms my heart to hear of the clear teaching and results that is evident in Sherri and her husband's church. If only more of us struggling would come simply trusting in His grace Divine, what a sovereign move of God we'd see!