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Old 03-17-2007, 10:56 PM
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Yes, I do believe that was the name of it. Like 3 1/2 years ago?
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Whether admitted to or not, many people remind God of the good deeds they perform as to gain favor with the Lord, or to twist His arm to get something that they want.

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I guess so. This is probably the only screen name I've ever used.
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Right, I was just in the process of making a post to this effect.

I still think the fact that she spreads her hair over her child is indicative of some erroneous understanding of Scripture. It seems like she was using it almost as a talisman.

I agree. I see posts defending that story and others similar to it as simply examples of "faith" but I fear the reality is usually what you have indicated.

I have a feeling that these women see their uncut hair as a bargaining chip with God and also as you mentioned a "magicial" tailsman with power within itself.

I think there is a tolerance for this kind of error in the UPC and old time Pentecost because it reinforces the doctrine of uncut hair on women by glamorizing it.
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I'm sure there are some that do believe their hair is magical. That is witchcraft, IMO.
They would never say their hair is magical.

I think it's more a matter of some messed up thinking in regard to this whole uncut hair/protection of the angels thing.

Like I said earlier it doesn't take much to get led aside into error. This whole thing about "my hair is a veil of protection" is just that.
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I agree. I see posts defending that story and others similar to it as simply examples of "faith" but I fear the reality is usually what you have indicated.

I have a feeling that these women see their uncut hair as a bargaining chip with God and also as you mentioned a "magicial" tailsman with power within itself.

I think there is a tolerance for this kind of error in the UPC and old time Pentecost because it reinforces the doctrine of uncut hair on women by glamorizing it.
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They would never say their hair is magical.

I think it's more a matter of some messed up thinking in regard to this whole uncut hair/protection of the angels thing.

Like I said earlier it doesn't take much to get led aside into error. This whole thing about "my hair is a veil of protection" is just that.
Right! And error begets error!
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I agree. I see posts defending that story and others similar to it as simply examples of "faith" but I fear the reality is usually what you have indicated.

I have a feeling that these women see their uncut hair as a bargaining chip with God and also as you mentioned a "magicial" tailsman with power within itself.

I think there is a tolerance for this kind of error in the UPC and old time Pentecost because it reinforces the doctrine of uncut hair on women by glamorizing it.
I agree the "tolerance" is there, but I'm trusting that the more conscientious pastors would not let this teaching go uncontested.
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I guess so. This is probably the only screen name I've ever used.
So are you the same person who sent me Hawberry Jelly about 3 years back? I was sure it was you. I asked earlier and you never did answer.
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Please don't go there, Margie. This kind of assuming is what led to the witchcraft garbage.
well, I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why she thought she should lay her hair on her husband to begin with? Is that supposed to merit some kind of special favor from God just because she hasn't cut her hair? The Bible tells us that "by HIS stripes we are healed." PERIOD. That was the reason for those stripes. It makes me sad to even "think" that somebody tries to manipulate God by pointing out to Him how extra-worthy they are of His favor because of their own actions. (I'm not saying that's what she was thinking. I understand you are going to say that I am reading into what she said again. But again, it reads that way to ME. I guess we're all entitled to our opinions)
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