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Rico · #**1351** 07-27-2008, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

You and others are ASSUMING that God, without a doubt, has revealed the oneness to them and that they have rejected it. That is a huge assumption and one that cannot be proven.

God absolutely, could give the entire trinitarian movement a revelation of His oneness, but for some reason hasn't done that. If it were as important to Him as it is to us, it would have been done a long time ago. I don't believe that God is that stingy, stupid or mean.

He is far more concerned about someone surrendering to Him than He is about them being able to pass a doctrinal test on the godhead.

Wow. So now we're more concerned about truth than God is. Now I know you is

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Rico · #**1352** 07-27-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

I believe the Holy Ghost is able to show anyone the light of Acts 2:38 and Oneness, and lead them into all truth.

Especially among all these people who are supposedly completely surrendered to Him.

stmatthew · #**1353** 07-27-2008, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

The problem I have with this is that it handicaps the Holy Ghost as not having the power to "lead" someone into all truth. This is problematic to me when I look at men such as David Wilkerson, who by all intense purposes is probably a good man, with a good heart, doing a lot of good for drug attics and others. But yet after all these years, the Holy Ghost has yet to be able to lead him into an understanding of principle doctrines of baptism in Jesus Name. Not dogging DW. Just using him for an example.

What I find funny is that some of you that continue to believe that water baptism is not salvational, but still correct in scripture, never address the issue of the fact that some people either stop being lead by the holy ghost (LOST), or reject the correct mode of water baptism (LOST). So you are left with either a Holy Ghost that didn't do its job, or you are accepting someone as saved that has rejected the truth of the Word.

JMHO

You know, I believe I have given a logical, reasonable argument here, but have really gotten no logical, reasonable answer. I think I am going to take this and reword it a little and make it a new thread.

mizpeh · #**1354** 07-27-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

....here we go again. Mizpeh ALL I said in the beginning to PP was let's at least be honest and admit that their own doctrine states they believe in one God in number. It seems many OPs are afraid to admit that.

Im sure it would make things go a lot smoother if we stopped pointing our fingers at the Trinitarians and going No No, you are a polytheist if we can at least admit to them we understand their doctrine states they believe in One God

and all I'm saying is their doctrine says there is one God but when you take a close look at it, what in reality do they have? From PP's POV they have polytheism. He understands they claim monotheism but their doctrine sounds polytheistic. The three persons may not be "separate" gods like in true polytheism, but there are THREE in the Trinity who are each called God, in and of themselves. The doctrine sounds polytheistic to the "simple" folk as Tertullian acknowledged in Against Praxeas.