Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You may want to consider that YOU have a 1st Amendment right to preach and teach your Full Preterism, which I don't agree with. So, there is that.

So, there is that? What IS that?

Full Preterism? I'm Apostolic Pentecostal who believes in a fulfilled eschatology.

So you don't believe that? Fine I don't know what you believe as far as eschatology and you can't just say that you believe in a rapture, a physical return of Jesus etc, etc, because those items does not an eschatology make. While you and some others might perk up and state you believe in Dispensationalism, or some other modified version of it, the real test is when you sit through a series of questions pertaining to the scriptures on how YOU see those scriptures being fulfilled. Then we would see how much you were right or wrong concerning what YOU believe. Also, the first amendment doesn't give anyone any rights to preach the Gospel. People who lived in Communist countries taught us the lessons that we didn't need a piece of paper to preach or teach.

Now, let's look into your post to me, you don't believe what I believe as far as eschatology? Fine, like I said if you were questioned to exegete certain scriptures we might find that no one believes what you believe. But let's stay on track, what about Ted? While you may swoon over each other in the eschatology section, you wouldn't be honey hugging in soteriology? Because Ted and his dad, don't believe water baptism is necessary to salvation, they don't believe that what is said over anyone is important and both Cruzs were baptized in titles. Also they totally believe that once a person says the sinner's prayer they are saved and in good standing with God. They don't believe it is necessary to speak with tongues, or that God is one person instead of three separate persons working all in a unified effort with each other to get things done. So, my eschatology you don't agree with? Fine, that's no problem. But soteriology? Well, now that's a bigger issue and one that beats eschatology. I was saved when I was a futurist, as all futurists are saved who obeyed Acts 2:38, and are proceeding forward following Christ.

But as for your perfect leader Ted Cruz? If he were to die today would he be as saved as YOU?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So, there is that? What IS that?

Full Preterism? I'm Apostolic Pentecostal who believes in a fulfilled eschatology.

So you don't believe that? Fine I don't know what you believe as far as eschatology and you can't just say that you believe in a rapture, a physical return of Jesus etc, etc, because those items does not an eschatology make. While you and some others might perk up and state you believe in Dispensationalism, or some other modified version of it, the real test is when you sit through a series of questions pertaining to the scriptures on how YOU see those scriptures being fulfilled. Then we would see how much you were right or wrong concerning what YOU believe. Also, the first amendment doesn't give anyone any rights to preach the Gospel. People who lived in Communist countries taught us the lessons that we didn't need a piece of paper to preach or teach.

We don't "need" the 1st Amendment to preach the Gospel, but we are guaranteed that we can under said Amendment.

Now, let's look into your post to me, you don't believe what I believe as far as eschatology? Fine, like I said if you were questioned to exegete certain scriptures we might find that no one believes what you believe. But let's stay on track, what about Ted? While you may swoon over each other in the eschatology section, you wouldn't be honey hugging in soteriology? Because Ted and his dad, don't believe water baptism is necessary to salvation, they don't believe that what is said over anyone is important and both Cruzs were baptized in titles. Also they totally believe that once a person says the sinner's prayer they are saved and in good standing with God. They don't believe it is necessary to speak with tongues, or that God is one person instead of three separate persons working all in a unified effort with each other to get things done. So, my eschatology you don't agree with? Fine, that's no problem. But soteriology? Well, now that's a bigger issue and one that beats eschatology. I was saved when I was a futurist, as all futurists are saved who obeyed Acts 2:38, and are proceeding forward following Christ.

But as for your perfect leader Ted Cruz? If he were to die today would he be as saved as YOU?

None of this is the point. The point is that Ted Cruz, Copeland and YOU have a right to your religious beliefs.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

We don't "need" the 1st Amendment to preach the Gospel, but we are guaranteed that we can under said Amendment.

My statement still stands, telling me that I have some paper work making it legal for me to believe in a certain form of eschatology is laughable. The Amendment was to enable people to believe outside of the Anglican Church of England and the Roman Church.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

None of this is the point. The point is that Ted Cruz, Copeland and YOU have a right to your religious beliefs.

Oh but it is because you brought up the eschatology and qualify it with the words "I don't agree with!" Sister my point is that you disagree far more with the Cruz family's soteriology then my eschatology. First Amendment or not. Copeland is a religious side show freak, and anyone with any bit of savvy religious and political would steer clear of such a religious train wreak. Seriously, Ted doesn't want to be president, especially when he dropped the watermelon with the Eastern Orthodox, but still goes around telling people about the persecution of Syrian Christians? All after he told them if they don't stand with Israel he doesn't stand with them? That's his criteria of support to other Christian groups who hold different views? No 1st Amendment drum roll that night? Oh, and what about Ted's stupid comments on New York, my state of origin. He wants to be a president? I couldn't believe he was sticking both feet into his mouth, and the more he talked the more he swallowed FOOT.

You are a smart woman, so one has to ask?

Why are you still on that sinking ship?

[Pressing-On]

Masterful, Ted Cruz. Love it!

[MawMaw]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Masterful, Ted Cruz. Love it!

haha!! Love it too!!! Ted Cruz for President!!!!

[shag]

Who are you voting for E.B, Donald, Hillary, or Sanders?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shag

Who are you voting for E.B, Donald, Hillary, or Sanders?

Find me a candidate and I will vote for them.

I don't believe in any of these individuals and wouldn't in good conscience give them a job. Let alone place Missile Codes in their hands.

[shag]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Find me a candidate and I will vote for them.

I don't believe in any of these individuals and wouldn't in good conscience give them a job. Let alone place Missile Codes in their hands.

List a few you would vote for if they ran.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shag

List a few you would vote for if they ran.

My brother in law, two other friends of mine, Elders Blume, and Burk.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

My brother in law, two other friends of mine, Elders Blume, and Burk.

That's never going to happen.