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12-22-2013, 05:36 PM
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Re: Duck Dynasty Star Booted
Another little tidbit............
Willie has just come back from Washington, D.C., where he accepted an award at the Angels in Adoption Gala. (He and his wife, Korie, adopted a biracial child named Will and are dedicated advocates of the practice.)
Read More http://www.gq.com/entertainment/tele...#ixzz2oFYUeGE8
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12-22-2013, 05:40 PM
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Wierd. I can look up Phil on Youtube and read a ton of anti-gay titles but as soon as I type in "I support Phi" or "I stand with Phil" for a search I get asked to sign in.
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12-22-2013, 05:46 PM
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Caution! If you read the article be prepared for the VULGAR remarks by the reporter.
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12-23-2013, 08:03 AM
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Any given day, I generally do not agree with what's written in The Atlantic; however, today there is a great article by Larry Alex Taunton - "The Genuine Conflict Being Ignored in the Duck Dynasty Debate."
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Robertson didn’t simply attack and disparage the sexual preferences of a minority, as Alec Baldwin recently did in a hateful rant. No, Robertson’s opinion—couched as it was in scriptural references that suggest he not only owns a Bible, but also reads it—reflects the teaching and practice of historic Christianity and, by extension, the opinion of a sizable portion of the American public. Indeed, according to a June 2013 Pew Research Center survey, roughly half (45 percent) of Americans polled said they believe homosexual actions are a “sin.”
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In an apparent effort to convince this demographic that homosexual actions are not sinful, GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz said Robertson’s views are not Christian. The strategy here seems to be “divide and conquer”—separate Robertson from his religion and let public opinion do the rest. The theologians at GLAAD will have to do better, because what Robertson said is not inconsistent with a Christianity that sees the Bible as a source of Divine authority and inspiration—and Louisiana gun-toting evangelicals are not the only ones who embrace that Christianity. On the contrary, Cruz’s statement appears naive when one considers that Pope Francis, Time Magazine’s Person of the Year for 2013, has previously called gay marriage the work of the devil and “a total rejection of God’s law engraved on our hearts.” Judging by Thursday’s precedent, A&E would fire the pope.
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Missing in the controversy over A&E’s handling of its golden goose—or duck, rather—is the fact that the real conflict here is not between Robertson and A&E; it is between gay activists and a solid majority of Christians who believe homosexual acts are wrong. As indicated above, Robertson’s views are hardly anomalous. Christians may disagree on the details, but the Bible strongly condemns homosexuality in both the Old and New Testaments; the marriage model of one man and one woman is first given by God in Genesis 2 and reiterated by Jesus in Matthew 19; and in Romans 1 the Apostle Paul denounces homosexuality as a hallmark of a degenerate culture. The point here isn’t that you have to believe any of this, but many Christians do believe it and feel morally bound to believe it.
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Instead of acknowledging this tension, however, A&E, GLAAD, and their supporters have responded with disingenuous expressions of shock and horror. And it matters that it's disingenuous, because if they actually acknowledged that there is a genuine conflict between orthodox Christianity and homosexual sex (along with several forms of heterosexual sex) they would have to confront head-on the fact that calling for a boycott or pressuring for Robertson's suspension tells orthodox Christians that their religion is no longer acceptable, and that’s not a very politically correct thing to do. Right now, they are trying to weasel out of it by characterizing Robertson as a backwoods bigot who takes his moral cues from Deliverance rather than from a straightforward reading of the Bible and the historic teachings of the Christian religion.
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Tolerance is not the same thing as acceptance, and acceptance is not the same thing as an endorsement. The message A&E’s decision sends is that there is zero tolerance on television for Christians who are conscientious objectors to homosexuality. More than that, it implicitly suggests that the campaign for tolerance has advanced to a campaign to pressure 45 percent of Americans to recant their beliefs and endorse a lifestyle to which they are opposed, conscience be damned.
We stand at a crossroads. The country must decide. Is the endgame here to be that orthodox Christians will henceforth have no voice within their own culture? If so, does this mean we have become a nation of bullies, forcing conformity while calling it tolerance?
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Larry hits the nail on the head when he states that by suspending Phil, they are stating there is ZERO tolerance for Christians who believe the Bible and because of that, are against homosexuality.
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12-23-2013, 09:58 AM
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12-27-2013, 02:22 PM
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I used to be able to get into this without signing in....now I can't. Also they used to be 1.8 mil and are now 1.7 again?????
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12-27-2013, 02:28 PM
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I used to be able to get into this without signing in....now I can't. Also they used to be 1.8 mil and are now 1.7 again?????
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Sometimes with social issues like this, people will like a page for a few days, and then unlike it so as not to keep getting updates or whatever from the page.
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12-27-2013, 02:35 PM
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Sometimes with social issues like this, people will like a page for a few days, and then unlike it so as not to keep getting updates or whatever from the page.
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I see. I wonder about the signing in thing though. Like the other day, I could watch youtube videos that criticized Phil but when I wanted to watch pro Phil ones it wanted me to sign in!!
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12-27-2013, 02:36 PM
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P.S. I try not to sign into anything, so I didn't. And I'm not on FB.
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