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Old 08-15-2010, 08:01 PM
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Who is dismissing the carnage ???? ... don't be disingenuous and obfuscate ... there has been carnage by Christians as well even on the continent of Africa .... in the name of Jesus.
More appeals to emotion and someone else's country ...

You think the Constitution doesn't have the armor to withstand another mosque among the thousands in our nation for decades?

This one will institute Sharia law ... gotcha.

I don't do the politics of fear.
Please, document your statement, where this has happened?
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Why would you be on the side of the KKK and Christian militiamen who want to purify our nation ethnically and religiously?

Ugh. REALLY PELA????
Pure, nonsense the KKK has never been a christian organization, the burnt the cross, they never bowed at it.
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"Legally?" Remember, "legally" FDR had the go ahead from the courts to round up everyone of Japanese ancestry living on the West Coast in 1942. That didn't make it "right," but it was "legal" at the time.
The same Christian jihadists were clamoring for a Muslim round-up after 9/11 ... and would do the same now.

Your appeals to wartime powers during "declared" war time ... is more obfuscation ...

If your retort is "we're at war" then let's declare martial law.

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Who is dismissing the carnage ???? ... don't be disingenuous and obfuscate ... there has been carnage by Christians as well even on the continent of Africa .... in the name of Jesus.

More appeals to emotion and someone else's country ...

You think the Constitution doesn't have the armor to withstand another mosque among the thousands in our nation for decades?

This one will institute Sharia law ... gotcha.

I don't do the politics of fear.

Dan I am shocked that you would try to compare what the muslims have done to some Christians doing "somethings" in Africa. I'm sure you don't give a "rat's.. what ever it was that you said," about what I think, but I'm disappointed in your responses on this post! I guess I'd say I've lost some respect for you because of the harsh words and "muslim favoring" attitude. Again, I'm sure you don't care!

Give me a comparable list of Christians doing the same things as the list below gives us of Muslims. Note who did all these things.

Americans, like some on this post, better get their heads out of the sand. You know what part of you that the "Terrorist Muslims" gonna take away first ...with your head in the sand.

Here is a list of Muslim terrorist killings and injuries to others. Where are the horrible Christians doing the same things?


4/14/1972 USA New York, NY — Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
1/19/1973 USA Brooklyn, NY — Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
7/18/1973 USA Washington, DC — Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
10/19/1973 USA Oakland, CA — Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
10/29/1973 USA Berkeley, CA — A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
11/25/1973 USA Oakland, CA — A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/11/1973 USA Oakland, CA — A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
12/13/1973 USA Oakland, CA — A woman is shot to deah on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/20/1973 USA Oakland, CA — Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
12/22/1973 USA Oakland, CA — Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
12/24/1973 USA Oakland, CA — A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1/24/1974 USA Oakland, CA — Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
4/1/1974 USA Oakland, CA — A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
4/16/1974 USA Ingleside, CA — A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
3/9/1977 USA Washington, DC — Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B'nai B'rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
7/22/1980 USA Bethesda, MD — A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
8/31/1980 USA Savou, IL — An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
11/6/1989 USA St. Louis, MO — A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing 'dishonor' to their family by dating an 'infidel' African-American.
1/31/1990 USA Tuscon, AZ — A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur'an were invalid.
11/5/1990 USA New York City, NY — An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1/25/1993 USA Langley, VA — A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
2/26/1993 USA New York, NY — Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
3/1/1994 USA Brooklyn, NY — A Muslim fires on a vanload of Jewish boys, killing one.
3/23/1997 USA New York, NY — A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
4/3/1997 USA Lompoc, CA — A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
10/31/1999 USA Near Nantucket — An Egyptian airline pilot runs a planeload of 217 passengers into the water after uttering a Qur'anic prayer.
3/17/2000 USA Atlanta, GA — A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
9/11/2001 USA Shanksville, PA — Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
9/11/2001 USA New York, NY — Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
9/11/2001 USA Washington, DC — Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ — A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX — Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA — Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD — A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL — Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA — A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD — Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD — Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA — A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA — Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA — A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD — A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX — After undergoing a religious revival, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
12/2/2003 USA Chicago, IL — A Muslim doctor deliberately allows a Jewish patient to die from an easily treatable condition.
4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC — A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY — In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD — A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO — Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA — An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
10/6/2006 USA Louisville, KY — In an 'honor' attack, a Muslim man rapes and beats his estranged wife, leaving her for dead, then savagely murders their four children.
2/13/2007 USA Salt Lake City, UT — A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine's Day cards at a gift shop and killing five.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX — A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA — A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY — The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR — A Muslim with 'religious motives' shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ — A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX — A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
12/4/2009 USA Binghamton, NY — A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
4/14/2010 USA Marquette Park, IL — After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.

Now don't come back and accuse me of thinking only Muslims do these kinds of things. But show me a list of a certain race or nationality with this many horrible incidents to their credit.

We've ignored the possibilities before and we've paid for it.

What happens if they turn the new "Community Center" into a place to put together germ or necular warfare?

Blow us up "with our blessings!"
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Pure, nonsense the KKK has never been a christian organization, the burnt the cross, they never bowed at it.
Buuuuuuuuuuuuwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaha ... it was very much a Protestant-oriented and White Protestant-only organization... do you know your history??? ... it's why they targeted Catholics and Jews as well.

Find yourself a history book.
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Please, document your statement, where this has happened?
Here's just one example of violence in the name of Jesus ... in Africa.

Uganda

The Lord's Resistance Army, a cult guerrilla army engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government, has been accused of using child soldiers and committing numerous crimes against humanity; including massacres, abductions, mutilation, torture, rape, porters and sex slaves.[26] It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Christian Holy Spirit which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations.[27][27][28][29] LRA fighters wear rosary beads and recite passages from the Bible before battle.

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There are not "6 billion" Muslims on the planet (Yet?). There are a reported 1 billion. I suspect a typo or a gloss here.

Europe has even littler hope of not being over run by glacial ice sheets if we give it enough time.

"Evolution" is not defined as "the survival of the fittest." It is, with regard to the survival of organisms, the "survival of those that have survived." To find a way out of the tautology and into a meaningful discussion about life, evolutionary biologists have sought to understand why certain organisms, types and kinds have survived while others have not.

Radical Islam is a fad. It has come and gone for centuries. Usually gone, eventually. And what "makes it go away?" Rational Muslims.
I was speaking evangelically! LOL
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Al Andalusia. Cordoba. But they were overthrown.

In the current climate (of the last 100 years or so) I can think of no Muslim country where a person could go and say, build a new church building.
Point taken, I was speaking of a current context.
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Buuuuuuuuuuuuwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaha ... it was very much a Protestant-oriented and White Protestant-only organization... do you know your history??? ... it's why they targeted Catholics and Jews as well.

Find yourself a history book.
It was NOT a Christian organization.
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It was NOT a Christian organization.
It is Buddhist or Protestants are not Christians?
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