Tattoos - Page 13

notofworks · #**121** 07-04-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacey

Tattoos?

They look very unnatural and out of place on a human body IMO.

Spraying your hair is an unnatural look. God wants it to just hang there.

notofworks · #**122** 07-04-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

I agree 110% and then some. However, I think God does care to some extent what we look like, or more accurately, what we do to our bodies.

Furthermore, the same arguments used IN FAVOR of tatoos can be used in favor for those who are extremely overweight, smoking dope, etc. Its only the "exterior" so it doesn't matter. I'm not buying that

No it can't!! Getting a tattoo does do health damage. Being extremely overweight, smoking dope, etc., does. It's two completely different things.

Come on, Jason, step it up. I'm kicking your butt on this one!

Arphaxad · #**123** 07-04-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Spraying your hair is an unnatural look. God wants it to just hang there.

and teeth whiteners, keep 'em naturally stained.

notofworks · #**124** 07-04-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Arphaxad

and teeth whiteners, keep 'em naturally stained.

Well heck....brushing your teeth. Cologne. Aspirin. Deodorant. Laxatives (if you're stopped up, it's the way God wanted it). Glasses. Heck, clothes. Let's just be natural!!!

Jason B · #**125** 07-04-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Sorry for the delay in answering I was out on a date with my Wife and Daughter.

No we can't do anything we want too. It is not ONLY the exterior it is the evidence of what is shining the inside. I would not get a devil tattoo. That is not what is shining in me. If I got a tattoo for my wife, my daughter, or my faith it would be because that is what is shining in me. The key is motives which only God will know anyway. I do believe that God cares more about the condition of the heart because if the outside is clean, but the inside in rotten the home is not righteous. That being said there is no evidence of Biblical support against tattoos. I know about Leviticus which doesn't apply as NOW has already showed. Some people just hold to the old school mindsets.

Ok, why would you not get a devil tatoo? What if someone DID want a devil tatoo. I know a guy who says he's a Christian (would fit in with alot of folks here) who said he was going to shave his head and have devil horns tatooed on his head. He could grow hair to cover it up, or shave his head when he wanted them to show.

As for "old school" mindsets, that is simply an unfounded opinion. Because I'm not going to say "anything goes" if you want to tatoo a leaf on your arm, or a teardrop under your eye, or devils horn on your head, or tatoo your face like mike tyson, or tatoo your whole body (like the pic of the guy in this thread) well thats all right, God doesn't care. Whatever. Not everything that has ever been taught is 100% completely wrong.

The problem is, so many have come up under legalistic rules and never learned to live by Biblical principles, and now that many have shed that legalism they can't even comprehend principles.

Arphaxad · #**126** 07-04-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Well heck....brushing your teeth. Cologne. Aspirin. Deodorant. Laxatives (if you're stopped up, it's the way God wanted it). Glasses. Heck, clothes. Let's just be natural!!!

and eat sushi only

Jason B · #**127** 07-04-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

No it can't!! Getting a tattoo does do health damage. Being extremely overweight, smoking dope, etc., does. It's two completely different things.

Come on, Jason, step it up. I'm kicking your butt on this one!

Okay, so basically what your saying is we can do whatever we want to do with OUR bodies so long as it doesn't harm our health?

notofworks · #**128** 07-04-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Okay, so basically what your saying is we can do whatever we want to do with OUR bodies so long as it doesn't harm our health?

I'm saying that if a person wants a tattoo, they should be able to get one without Standardized Cultural American Christianity throwing a hissy fit. There is neither a direct prohibition nor a principled prohibition in scripture. It really is as simple as that.

Many don't like tattoos. Fine. Don't like them. That's your free will. It should be the free will of another person to like them and have them.

Jason B · #**129** 07-04-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'm saying that if a person wants a tattoo, they should be able to get one without Standardized Cultural American Christianity throwing a hissy fit. There is neither a direct prohibition nor a principled prohibition in scripture. It really is as simple as that.

Many don't like tattoos. Fine. Don't like them. That's your free will. It should be the free will of another person to like them and have them.

So you have issue with someone doing to themselves what Todd Bentley did to himself, even after thier conversion. Tattoos all over the place peircings, chains haning from the lip to the nose to the ear, maybe get some of those disguting ear rings that make your ear like 4 inches in diamater (I think their called 8 cauge or something like that). All thats fine becuase theres no health risk involved?

Note, I am asking POST conversion. I certainly don't believe any sin, or how we look can keep us from God's love or grace when we come to him, but I still believe that after we come to him, we are to offer ourselves up for his service, and to live holy. Just because some folks have misinterpreted what holy living is and made it clothes and haircuts, doesn't mean we should throw out all holiness living. We are still commanded to come out from among them and be ye seperate, and to be ye holy (2 Corinthians 6/7 & 1 Peter 1:16) in the new Testament. I will offer a more detailed post later.

Jason B · #**130** 07-04-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'm saying that if a person wants a tattoo, they should be able to get one without Standardized Cultural American Christianity throwing a hissy fit. There is neither a direct prohibition nor a principled prohibition in scripture. It really is as simple as that.

Many don't like tattoos. Fine. Don't like them. That's your free will. It should be the free will of another person to like them and have them.

NOW, what if they want to get a tattoo of a devil (as JT brought up), or perhaps a woman with horns, with strong innuedo perhaps on a motorcycle or the outline of a womans body so often seen on trucks? Are some tatoos okay, others not? Where is the line? If my buddy tatoos horns on his head yet claims to be christian and quotes scripture, would you let him on your leadership team, use him to teach on the platform, with devil horns on his head? Where is the line, and if you say there IS a line, what scripture do you use? And if you say there isn't a line, then what keeps people from getting a devil tatoo, a skull and crossbones, a bloody knife, anything explicitly or inplicity sexually immoral, etc?

Furthermore, what if they don't even get a tatoo of these things, since tatoos are permanent. What if they simply wear clothes with such things on them. Maybe get some short shorts that say "Bootylicious" or a shirt with womens butts on it that says "buttwieser" where is the line. At least those folks can make the argument "its not permanent, its not hurting anyone, and theres no scripture against it." Does just anything go since we're under grace?

more to come later, I've got to go pop some fireworks and eat some BBQ. No offese to NOW, or anyone on this thread, good topic. :thumsup