McCain once again is doing the honorable thing

[AmericanAngel]

Dan said-"Where has he been in the 110th Congress whille the economy was sinking to it's present levels? "

ummmm, running for Prez. just like Obama has?


So, now you are saying that it's all McCain's fault that we are in this mess??? Riiiiight.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Statesman my foot ... every move he makes is pandering....

The Palin pick ...

and attempting to look like this economic crisis needs his undivided attention??? ... this just happened this week???

... in this Congress he's missed 64.1% of the votes ... now he wants to go and build a coalition ...??? Do his collleagues even know who he is?
Where has he been in the 110th Congress whille the economy was sinking to it's present levels?

Is this the same legislator of McCain-Feingold? Is this the same legislator that teamed w/ Democrats and vetoed a very necessary line-item veto ... ???

This is not a statesmen of the ilk of Abe Lincoln or Winston Churchill ...

This is an insult to the intelligence of the nation .... condescencion squared.
We need to have a discussion now ... in the public arena .. about which leader for the next four years is best for the country ... in an economy that will not be just instantly solved with financial socialism.

Lol - and I suppose your man has been?

BTW - I believe Deacon has a thread for you.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=18848

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Apparently, President Bush thought it was important enough to invite them together for a meeting. Whatever decision is made this weekend the next president will inherit - why not involve them in the decision making of it since they are both Senators that can vote on it.

I believe the debate will be held tomorrow night.

Thank you, Renda!! I don't have time today for any of this, but I did want to pop in and say thanks for the sensible update on this!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Lol - and I suppose your man has been?

BTW - I believe Deacon has a thread for you.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=18848

It's to be expected that a candidate in Congress will miss votes during a campaign Renda.

Let's be fair in our reporting:

61.4% McCain's Votes: 412 votes missed (64.1%), 231 votes cast
45.9% Obama's Votes: 295 votes missed (45.9%), 348 votes cast

Over 100 more votes difference

We just did not stumble this week unto a financial crisis ....

Truth be told both candidates are IN WASHINGTON TODAY ... to talk about this .... and not because McCain asked ... THE PRESIDENT DID.

They both have designer like planes that can shuttle them for official business at a moment's notice ... with instant access to the airways

Presidents multi-task .... don't try to a act Presidential ... and then can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

If there was a need for a vote to be cast .... both candidates could get a debate done and still vote ...

that's the reality of this ...

This is not the first time we have had a "crisis" during a Presidential year ... but please don't use is it as a political card ... in an attempt to pretend you are a legislator first ... when

a. this crisis did not just spring on us
b. his campaign has hinted the economy was not as bad as some were saying. "We are a nation of whiners" , etc.
c. you have missed many votes during this time of "crisis" - more than any other.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It's to be expected that a candidate in Congress will miss votes during a campaign Renda.

Let's be fair in our reporting:

61.4% McCain's Votes: 412 votes missed (64.1%), 231 votes cast
45.9% Obama's Votes: 295 votes missed (45.9%), 348 votes cast

Over 100 more votes difference

We just did not stumble this week into a financial crisis ....

Truth be told both candidates are IN WASHINGTON TODAY ... to talk about this .... and not because McCain asked ... THE PRESIDENT DID.

They both have designer like planes that can shuttle them for official business at a moment's notice ... with instant access to the airways

Presidents multi-task .... don't try to a act Presidential ... and then can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

If there was a need for a vote to be cast .... both candidates could get a debate done and still vote ...

that's the reality of this ...

This is not the first time we have had a "crisis" during a Presidential year ... but please don't use is it as a political card ... in an attempt to pretend you are a legislator first ... when

a. this crisis did not just spring on us
b. his campaign has hinted the economy was not as bad as some were saying. "We are a nation of whiners" , etc.
c. you have missed many votes during this time of "crisis" - more than any other.

DA where did you find these stats? I read that the majority of the time the Omama excuse Obama was there he didn't vote he just said "present" which is not counted as a vote, but counted as him being there and that McCain acutally had voted more than Obama did. So I wanted to check to see why there is a difference.

P.S. I almost always agree with you except on this matter. But good to know you are here to balance us all out!

[SuzanneDeAZ]

Originally Posted by Aquila

All McCain can do is pass a vote on the legislation. He needs to stand his ground and debate Obama.

He's running scared.

Any one who thinks he is running scared is most likely a lib. McCain has been wanting to debate Obama for months now. It is Obama who is the one who is scared. McCain needs to do more than just pass legislation he needs to be part of the decision making not just vote.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

DA where did you find these stats? I read that the majority of the time the Omama excuse Obama was there he didn't vote he just said "present" which is not counted as a vote, but counted as him being there and that McCain acutally had voted more than Obama did. So I wanted to check to see why there is a difference.

P.S. I almost always agree with you except on this matter. But good to know you are here to balance us all out!

Source:

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c.../vote-missers/

There is no present vote option in the US Senate.

His "present" votes were in the Illinois Senate, which provides this option as a way to basically say "let's keep working on this." It’s usually what you vote when you agree with the goal of a piece of legislation, but you disagree with the specifics.

It is a state legislators right ... and can be used as a form of protest.

A present vote means just that you are present ...

[SDG]

Casting a vote in Congress is a reflection of one's attendance to the job you have been elected for ...

When McCain was not running for president his attendance record was much higher.

During the 109th Congress, which ended in December 2006, McCain missed 58 out of 645 votes cast, or 9.0%; the fifth-worst attendance record in the 109th Congress.

Obama missed 11 Senate votes in the 109th Congress, or 1.7%

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by 1399

If you compare Biden to Palin, as far as VP's ready to step up, there is NO COMPARISON.

Right! Biden has never been right and Palin hasnt been around long enough to amass a record of being wrong! LOL!

[tstew]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

DA where did you find these stats? I read that the majority of the time the Omama excuse Obama was there he didn't vote he just said "present" which is not counted as a vote, but counted as him being there and that McCain acutally had voted more than Obama did. So I wanted to check to see why there is a difference.

P.S. I almost always agree with you except on this matter. But good to know you are here to balance us all out!

I've pointed out a bunch of times that the same study that we use to label Obama as the most liberal Senator was unable to grade McCain due to the fact that he did not vote often enough in the time period to qualify...but who wants to quibble with that reality.