Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by George

Visit his church website and read about the staff. They have a minister for "same gender loving couples."

Yeah, there's no doubt Obama is very liberal in his views. That's one reason why I'd have second thoughts before voting for him. I just don't see McCain being able to win, nor do I see McCain giving us anything worth while. At least voting for Obama would prevent Hillary from getting into the White House.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I'm not Pro-Islamic. I understand that you sincerely don't like Obama. That's fine. I'm just saying you've not offered a strong case for slandering him as a Muslim and you are leaning on internet rumors that have been debunked on Snopes.com and FactCheck.com. C'mon St.Mark, don't say that about me.

I didn't say any Names!!!!!!!!

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by George

Without sounding callous, did you have a father in your life or were you raised by a single mother? Most children are so greatly influenced by their father and become who their parents are.

I didn't. I know of thousands of kids who never became what their parents were. As a matter of fact, I'd say most everyone I know didn't become what their parents were. lol

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by StMark

I didn't say any Names!!!!!!!!

You didn't have to bro. I forgive you. I just don't know why you'd say that about me or anyone else who understands that these internet rumors are just propaganda and urban legend. That really hurt bro.

I'd have more (not much more) respect for a man who just said he didn't like Obama because he was black or a man who said Obama was just too liberal than a man who would propagate and argue that proven falsehoods were facts.

[George]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Bro Mark...you're above this kind of thing. To say you disagree with a man's politics is fair. But in all honesty bro...what you're saying about him isn't grounded in fact. It's already been solidly refuted. It was all part of an email rumor. LOL

I agree with Mark. Furthermore, Obama's books, church website, and numerous news clips are not part of an email rumor. Instead of arguing, why don't you read his books and find out for yourself. The guys is bad news.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by George

I agree with Mark. Furthermore, Obama's books, church website, and numerous news clips are not part of an email rumor. Instead of arguing, why don't you read his books and find out for yourself. The guys is bad news.

Oh, I don't doubt that the guy could be bad news. He's a politician. lol

My issues are that many of the things said about him here are part of email rumors or quoted out of context. If you wrote a few books about controversial subjects I'm sure I could find quotes and excerpts to make you look bad. The man's clearly a Liberal, no doubt about that. The man's proud of his African heritage, that's true and no problem with that really...I'm very proud of my Irish heritage. All I'm asking is that we stick to the facts, not rumor mill internet gossip.

And especially...let's not call anyone Pro-Islamic just because they don't believe the internet rumors. I served 8 years in the Army and am by no means Pro-Islamic. Don't accuse me of something like that, especially if you never wore a uniform and stood in defense of this country. I just think that's an unfair mis-characterization. But hey....if they'll make stuff up about Obama...I don't know why I'm surprised that they're sinking to making up stuff about me and/or others. lol

[ChristopherHall]

I wouldn't care very much about what they called me accept I'm displaying my real name here. I have to keep my rep clean dude. lol Don't call me Pro-Islamic. That's going way too far.

[ChristopherHall]

Love ya bros (that includes you too StMark). I'm going to bed. Later.

[George]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I didn't. I know of thousands of kids who never became what their parents were. As a matter of fact, I'd say most everyone I know didn't become what their parents were. lol

Apparently you never studied stats. It is proven the majority of kids become who their parents are. Alcoholics breed alchoholics, druggies breed druggies, Christians breed Christians, etc. It is a minority of people that do not develop traits, characteristics and beliefs of their parents.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by George

Apparently you never studied stats. It is proven the majority of kids become who their parents are. Alcoholics breed alchoholics, druggies breed druggies, Christians breed Christians, etc. It is a minority of people that do not develop traits, characteristics and beliefs of their parents.

My dad was a druggie and an alcoholic who beat my mom within an inch of her life while visiting when I was about five years old. I personally don't believe what you're advocating. We have free will to be and do whatever we choose. Much of what you're talking about is due to environmental influences through extended contact leading to social conditioning. And even then kids can grow up and freely choose not to be what their parents were. I know foster kids who were adopted that became good citizens who's real family was riddled with crime, drug, and alcohol abuse. I think this is just another irrational excuse to justify some of the things said about Obama in email rumors.

Dude...just stick to actual policies and positions and admit you don't like him. That's cool. I disagree with him strongly in some areas too. But hey, I'm not going to propagate email rumors about him or try to be their apologist.