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12-12-2007, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by retsambeW
You are now putting words in my mouth. You at least owe me a lunch for repentance sake. 
Most likely, the men involved have no idea what is being said by others not on the list. That does happen you know. |
Exactly. That is why you shouldn't refer to those who are unscrupulous as "their lieutenants." Those were YOUR words, not mine.
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12-12-2007, 02:17 PM
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I know plenty of these men and can tell you they are hard as nails. Can't walk straight enough. Some I know have been disgruntled for years. How can you build a meaningful organization on disgruntled, angry, mean, complainers? All they will do is implode on each other after the honeymoon is over.
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Well color me shocked!
Who woulda thunk it?
You must be bitter or something to say such a thing.
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12-12-2007, 02:18 PM
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BTW, I really do believe some of these men believe if it ain't comin' outa their chimney, it ain't smoke.
They have learned well from a system that is corrupt to the very core.
There is something inherently wrong with us when lying, deception and all sorts of unethical behavior is deemed okay. That is, it's okay if someone in power does it.
If someone in Podunksville, Arkansas who pastors a small church and gives little to the coffers of the orgs does it, he's probably gonna get the cat-o-nine from his morally superior "elders."
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You will get no argument from me on this. I have seen it happen.
So you know, if it turns out it is a lie, I will stand in front of you personally and repent. Time tells all things. I say we give time it's chance before we assume.
Now here is one for you:
What if they don't form an organization?
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12-12-2007, 02:18 PM
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Is the WWPF against preaching enhancing drugs??
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Wonder if they'll have a traveling strong man contest with former wrestlers? Instead of tearing up phone books, they'll get a bunch of old upc manuals. Somehow they need to release all that aggression.
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12-12-2007, 02:19 PM
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Well color me shocked!
Who woulda thunk it?
You must be bitter or something to say such a thing.
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Not bitter, "better". lol
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12-12-2007, 02:19 PM
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Exactly. That is why you shouldn't refer to those who are unscrupulous as "their lieutenants." Those were YOUR words, not mine.
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If they are promoting this, they are lieutenants. You are right, it was my word, and I stand by it.
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12-12-2007, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by retsambeW
You will get no argument from me on this. I have seen it happen.
So you know, if it turns out it is a lie, I will stand in front of you personally and repent. Time tells all things. I say we give time it's chance before we assume.
Now here is one for you:
What if they don't form an organization?
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Does it matter if they ever form it?
There is enough proof that they INTEND to do so.
That is enough to classify them as disengenuous, and I am being very kind.
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12-12-2007, 02:21 PM
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Let's see...because they have a list of elders makes it an organization. Oh, I see. God died, and bequeathed his powers of all knowingness to DA.
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Let me see ... they make a list giving themselve positions ... they meet repeatedly ... resign from the fellowship they belonged to ... they secure a domain presence for their Bible quizzing program and a domain for their fellowship name ... anecdotal information from multiple ministers, etc, etc, etc ....
surely this is a figment of our imaginations ....
The all-knowing God gave us the ability to infer.
Can we stop being insulted.
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12-12-2007, 02:25 PM
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Does it matter if they ever form it?
There is enough proof that they INTEND to do so.
That is enough to classify them as disengenuous, and I am being very kind.
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If we take an unfinished website as "proof of intent" we may be sorry later.
Look, there is no doubt in my mind that some (I have no idea how many) ministers certainly seem to be leaning towards formation of a new group. Is it the majority? I don't know. Does that mean one will be formed? I don't know. Is worrying about it on an internet forum going to solve anything? This one I KNOW the answer to: No.
Funny. One of the 49 is the man who twisted my arm the hardest to come in to the UPC. Now he might (according to him he is not sure) leave the UPC. Good grief, I have been in less than two years.
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12-12-2007, 02:25 PM
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Somebody changed the website, names have disappeared and TLC name is gone. Are they all running scared now that they have been exposed?
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