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07-26-2008, 10:39 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Does that mean "Now" as a dispensationalist sees it, or "Now" as a Historist see it, or "Now" as a Preterist sees it?
Also the title elder, pastor, brother, what do they mean to you?
You didn't attempt to answer what I did post.
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No Elder. You are not dancing around this one so easily. Your assumption damns billions of souls to hell, despite having their faith, despite repenting of their sins, and despite walking in the ways of God. And Elder, that cannot go unchallenged. Either answer or say I do not know. Simple. If I get one or the other, this conversation can end and we will go our separate ways, without the need for ignore.
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07-26-2008, 10:39 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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I never said anything about a handbasket. 
I believe anyone who has heard who Jesus is, and rejects that message and teaches a heresy, is hellbound.
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So so you view trinitarians as heretical, not just having a flawed view of the Godhead?
In my mind that would mean you have drank the koolaid that they are polytheistic. That is the only way I can see someone condemming them as heretical.
I believe they are monotheists with not as good an understanding of the mystery of the godhead as I have.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-26-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Why doesn't he come over here and share his thoughts instead of asking you to do it?
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I guess because:
A. He is permanently banned.
B.He doesn't want to.
ANy further questions?
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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07-26-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Not fighting about the e-mail...
Actually, we may want to start discussing what to do about big gossips on AFF...
Any comments, StMark?
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07-26-2008, 10:40 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
Well, then, if baptism should only be done in Jesus name, and every one else is going to hell, then God was without a witness for almost 1600 years, and billions are now in Hell because, despite their faith, they did not have a minister do his work in pronouncing the name of Jesus over them in baptism. Sure.
No, Matthew, not this way you do not. Either we are saved by grace through faith, or we are saved by our works. One or the other, not both.
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So you do not believe a person can loose their salvation by not obeying the bible??
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07-26-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
Amen to CC1!
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07-26-2008, 10:41 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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So you do not believe a person can loose their salvation by not obeying the bible??
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I believe that as a person has understanding and walks in said understanding, that person is continuing in God as best as they know how.
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07-26-2008, 10:41 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Most surprising to me was who it came from! It seemed so out of character for Pianoperson I wondered if he wasn't just trying to stir something up. I will have to ask him next time I see or talk to him.
I personally never thought of WWOD as the conservatices champion. He was kind of in his own world. I think the conservatives enjoyd a lot of his posting when it wasn't so verbose no one knew what in the dickens he was talking about but not as a champion for them.
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I guess I never really thought I needed a "champion."
I imagine most of us felt the same way.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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07-26-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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So so you view trinitarians as heretical, not just having a flawed view of the Godhead?
In my mind that would mean you have drank the koolaid that they are polytheistic. That is the only way I can see someone condemming them as heretical.
I believe they are monotheists with not as good an understanding of the mystery of the godhead as I have.
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CC1, before you defend their garbage, at least study it.
One God in three persons, who are coequal, coexistant and coeternal?
The persons language is tritheistic.
Tri meaning three.
Three meaning more than one.
Which is, by definition, polytheism.
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07-26-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
Nope. You do not get off that easily, Elder. And also, you are so right about the number of churches I have been a part of. But, you know what, the elder I am with is the man who baptized me in Jesus name many years back. He welcomed me back, and the Lord is using me to bless and encourage saints.
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Bill, it's always about the "BUTS" isn't that funny? How many times did you go back to the man who originally baptized you? Bill, we always get to hear about how the Lord is using you to bless and encourage the saints in how many churches through the years? What happens when you have another melt down? Do these who you have encouraged become discouraged because you jumped ship again? Bill, you change faster than a Fort Lauderdale traffic light, what stops you from doing it again, and again?
Like I told you before in a month from now you will be able to answer the questions you asked tonight.
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