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Old 09-18-2007, 01:45 PM
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I'm sure my CPU will play a DVD but it NEVER has. I'm sure my internet connection could pick up TV programming but it NEVER has. Could you say that? I don't watch TV or any kind of movies at all. I'm not self righteous nor do I think i'm holier than anyone else. I'm just trying to live for God the best way I can. I don't feel bound up at all. By the way, my argument isn't with believe nothing charismatics. My arguments are with the lying (TV in their homes) UPC preachers. Do whatever you want, I don't consider us even on the same team. In fact I have a lot more respect for a man like you that turns his card in because he doesn't believe the message of truth that I preach.
So you do have a TV and DVD player in your house ..... oloroid
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:50 PM
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I'm sure my CPU will play a DVD but it NEVER has. I'm sure my internet connection could pick up TV programming but it NEVER has. Could you say that? I don't watch TV or any kind of movies at all. I'm not self righteous nor do I think i'm holier than anyone else. I'm just trying to live for God the best way I can. I don't feel bound up at all. By the way, my argument isn't with believe nothing charismatics. My arguments are with the lying (TV in their homes) UPC preachers. Do whatever you want, I don't consider us even on the same team. In fact I have a lot more respect for a man like you that turns his card in because he doesn't believe the message of truth that I preach.
if you don't think you are holier than anyone else why do you try and force people to conform to your convictions??
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:52 PM
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I'm sure my CPU will play a DVD but it NEVER has. I'm sure my internet connection could pick up TV programming but it NEVER has. Could you say that? I don't watch TV or any kind of movies at all. I'm not self righteous nor do I think i'm holier than anyone else. I'm just trying to live for God the best way I can. I don't feel bound up at all. By the way, my argument isn't with believe nothing charismatics. My arguments are with the lying (TV in their homes) UPC preachers. Do whatever you want, I don't consider us even on the same team. In fact I have a lot more respect for a man like you that turns his card in because he doesn't believe the message of truth that I preach.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:10 PM
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if you don't think you are holier than anyone else why do you try and force people to conform to your convictions??
I'm not trying to force anything on anybody. Do whatever you want. I respect a liberal as a person just as I would respect a muslim. I DO have a problem with lying UPC preachers. I don't want them to conform to what I believe, I want them to be a man and do what they said they would do. If you don't fall in that catagory then by all means live how you want.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:28 PM
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I'm not trying to force anything on anybody. Do whatever you want. I respect a liberal as a person just as I would respect a muslim. I DO have a problem with lying UPC preachers. I don't want them to conform to what I believe, I want them to be a man and do what they said they would do. If you don't fall in that catagory then by all means live how you want.
yeah, but I'm not "living the truth you preach", implying I'm not living for God or saved because I own a tv, which is absurd...

nice try, though... bait-and-switches really are great when condemning people aren't they? Give you the ability to blanketly condemn EVERYONE then say "but, no, I was only talking about these certain people" when you get called on it...
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:28 PM
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Hasn't it reached the old catch 22. The UPC cannot straddle any longer.
Used to be about trying to hold on to the UCons, but either way this vote goes will have equal....well almost results. The ones that want to advertise will go ahead and do so in one form or another. So maybe Ucons are makinig plans regardless of the outcome??? If HQ wants TV, they will turn their heads to the use of it. Yeah, UCons better make plans.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:38 PM
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So you do have a TV and DVD player in your house ..... oloroid
My point again!!!!!
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I'm sure my CPU will play a DVD but it NEVER has. I'm sure my internet connection could pick up TV programming but it NEVER has. Could you say that? I don't watch TV or any kind of movies at all. I'm not self righteous nor do I think i'm holier than anyone else. I'm just trying to live for God the best way I can. I don't feel bound up at all. By the way, my argument isn't with believe nothing charismatics. My arguments are with the lying (TV in their homes) UPC preachers. Do whatever you want, I don't consider us even on the same team. In fact I have a lot more respect for a man like you that turns his card in because he doesn't believe the message of truth that I preach.
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I'm not trying to force anything on anybody. Do whatever you want. I respect a liberal as a person just as I would respect a muslim. I DO have a problem with lying UPC preachers. I don't want them to conform to what I believe, I want them to be a man and do what they said they would do. If you don't fall in that catagory then by all means live how you want.
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This is the problem with this mentality ... "I preach truth while they preach a lie... I respect them like I respect muslims... "

Brother..If you can't love folks...you ain't goin to heaven I don't care how much you speak in tongues or preach..


If you can't see the venom in your post man..your problems are deeper than a preacher with a television... I got a feelin' we ain't seen the half...
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This is the problem with this mentality ... "I preach truth while they preach a lie... I respect them like I respect muslims... "

Brother..If you can't love folks...you ain't goin to heaven I don't care how much you speak in tongues or preach..


If you can't see the venom in your post man..your problems are deeper than a preacher with a television... I got a feelin' we ain't seen the half...
Thanks a ton Randy! I don't feel like I'm in the same category as a muslim...
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yeah, but I'm not "living the truth you preach", implying I'm not living for God or saved because I own a tv, which is absurd...

nice try, though... bait-and-switches really are great when condemning people aren't they? Give you the ability to blanketly condemn EVERYONE then say "but, no, I was only talking about these certain people" when you get called on it...
Say what you want, I still believe the same thing. I preach a certain thing, I believe it is Biblical (even though you don't), if you came to our church and you didn't live up to it them I think you'd be lost. But...you don't go to our church so do what your Pastor preaches. Yes, I think TV is evil but i've always said my main concern is with UPC preachers that have and watch TV in their home. Make all the excusses you want but the fact remains, a UPC preacher shouldn't watch TV period. Whether you're living for God or not is up to you not me.
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