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07-14-2007, 11:18 PM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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Originally Posted by shamgar1
The new Forward (a magazine for UPCI preachers) came out this week.
In it, there is an article titled "Where Have All the Young Ministers Gone?". The entire Forward is about mentoring and ministerial transition from one generation to the next.
In this article, the writer mentions that of the 9100 licensed UPCI ministers, under 400 of them are below the age of thirty. Hence the question, "Where have all the young ministers gone?" It is my belief that the UPCI is in danger. Under 400 ministers under the age of thirty? Where have they all gone?
Lest I am accused of being an alarmist, consider the theme of last year's General Conference was "Passing the Mantle". Now we have an entire Forward dedicated to the problem.
Why are there so few young ministers and what can be done to remedy the problem?
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I heard someone say:
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We are no longer uneducated peasants relying on a preacher who speaks latin to tell us everything we need to know... We can all read, and if given enough breathing room, everyone will begin to notice the inconsistencies on their own... these are real flaws in the foundation of the CULTURE of the church... which is what everyone accepts as the church...
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07-14-2007, 11:19 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
... and Hillsong United at 6 PM at the Lakewood Church palace.
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Dan,
you would go to a place like that?
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Apostolic in doctrine
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Charismatic in practice
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07-14-2007, 11:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shamgar1
The new Forward (a magazine for UPCI preachers) came out this week.
In it, there is an article titled "Where Have All the Young Ministers Gone?". The entire Forward is about mentoring and ministerial transition from one generation to the next.
In this article, the writer mentions that of the 9100 licensed UPCI ministers, under 400 of them are below the age of thirty. Hence the question, "Where have all the young ministers gone?" It is my belief that the UPCI is in danger. Under 400 ministers under the age of thirty? Where have they all gone?
Lest I am accused of being an alarmist, consider the theme of last year's General Conference was "Passing the Mantle". Now we have an entire Forward dedicated to the problem.
Why are there so few young ministers and what can be done to remedy the problem?
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My opinion means about squat here since I did not go, but a 2 hr service did not give me any warm and fuzzies.
Where are men like JT Pugh, Charles Grisham, and TFT to be role models for YOUNG men?
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07-14-2007, 11:20 PM
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i will never forget
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So J-Roc, you believe education is causing young men to shy away from licensing with the UPC?
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07-14-2007, 11:20 PM
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Not riding the train
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
My opinion means about squat here since I did not go, but a 2 hr service did not give me any warm and fuzzies.
Where are men like JT Pugh, Charles Grisham, and TFT to be role models for YOUNG men?
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Our son got out because of too much politics.
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07-14-2007, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Our son got out because of too much politics.
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Your son was licensed?
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07-14-2007, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
Dan,
you would go to a place like that?
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You mean the Chinese buffet???
Lakewood ....because it's a free concert and ... Hillsong United is da bomb.
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07-14-2007, 11:22 PM
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i will never forget
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
My opinion means about squat here since I did not go, but a 2 hr service did not give me any warm and fuzzies.
Where are men like JT Pugh, Charles Grisham, and TFT to be role models for YOUNG men?
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You would think it rather easy for the org to mentor and train a group of young men that numbers below 400. 8700 men over 30 can't mentor 400 under 30? Someone is falling down on the job.
BTW, I think Grisham is an awesome man of God.
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07-14-2007, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I'm just bitter ... but tomorrow it'll all be good ... I'm going to the house of the Lord ... Vicki Yohe will be there too... and then its off to the Chinese buffet ... and Hillsong United at 6 PM at the Lakewood Church palace.
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I like Chinese......
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07-14-2007, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shamgar1
So J-Roc, you believe education is causing young men to shy away from licensing with the UPC?
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I think its more than that ... its a shifting in the church in general that is tired of tradition, politics as usual and denominationalism ....
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