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Old 02-13-2007, 10:39 AM
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  • I think that "leadership" comes natural to some people but they're not necessarily primarily choleric type people.

  • You find leaders who are strongly even primarily sanguine or melancholic or phlegmatic.

  • A lot of leadership skill can be developed and learned over time.

  • The ability to work with people is all important if you're going to lead - whether you're a "natural" or have had to learn and work at becoming a good leader.

  • Just a few thots ....... don't expect everyone to agree necessarily and I know that there's the other "side" of what I'm saying even while I'm saying it.

  • The thing is if God puts you in a position where you're called on to "lead" even though you may not feel that's your "thing" He will give and grant divine ability to do what He has put you in that position to do.
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In regard to leadership and personality I often think of some of the leaders in scripture - both male and female. They didn't all seem necessarily typically choleric.

Think about it and then share your thoughts.
Choleric attributes. I think many people have leadership abilities but have a mix of different personality types. I am primarily choleric but have a third melancholy.

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In regard to leadership and personality I often think of some of the leaders in scripture - both male and female. They didn't all seem necessarily typically choleric.

Think about it and then share your thoughts.

Examples:

Gideon
Young Saul
Esther

These examples were unwilling leaders. But as time progressed, they exhibited SOME choleric attributes.If you will notice, I simply stated all leaders exhibit SOME choleric characteristics. Doing so is an imperative to get the job done.

Leadership is not for the faint of heart.
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All leaders show some characteristics of a choleric personality. I would add that the twenty-first century leader needs to understand human sociology. He or she needs to understand the politics of people.

You can have many great ideas, and a wonderful vision, but without an understanding of how to move people ideas and vision are worthless.
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I think you can have a Choleric that is a natural born leader get the job done. Note: they do have a weakness of running over people IF the Holy Ghost doesn't temper them.

Or you can have a Melchonly that perfers to work alone. Note: they can over work themselves because they do the job themselves, since they want it done right.

Or you can have a Sanguine,that is the life of the party. Note: they may not remember where they put they keys to go home, or forget to bring the keys to unlock the church.

Or you can get a Phlymactic who does things at their own pace. Note: your deadline just may not get met.

Or you can get the Supine who gets along with everyone. Note: they hate to make decisions, so may take awhile to decide what to do.

All temperments have their place.

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Examples:

Gideon
Young Saul
Esther

These examples were unwilling leaders. But as time progressed, they exhibited SOME choleric attributes.If you will notice, I simply stated all leaders exhibit SOME choleric characteristics. Doing so is an imperative to get the job done.

Leadership is not for the faint of heart.
I faint at the thought of it many times.
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I think you can have a Choleric that is a natural born leader get the job done. Note: they do have a weakness of running over people IF the Holy Ghost doesn't temper them.

Or you can have a Melchonly that perfers to work alone. Note: they can over work themselves because they do the job themselves, since they want it done right.

Or you can have a Sanguine,that is the life of the party. Note: they may not remember where they put they keys to go home, or forget to bring the keys to unlock the church.

Or you can get a Phlymactic who does things at their own pace. Note: your deadline just may not get met.

Or you can get the Supine who gets along with everyone. Note: they hate to make decisions, so may take awhile to decide what to do.

All temperments have their place.
Yes, and all the personality types are capable of leading. Not all people are though.
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Examples:

Gideon
Young Saul
Esther

These examples were unwilling leaders. But as time progressed, they exhibited SOME choleric attributes.If you will notice, I simply stated all leaders exhibit SOME choleric characteristics. Doing so is an imperative to get the job done.

Leadership is not for the faint of heart.
Amen!
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I think you can have a Choleric that is a natural born leader get the job done. Note: they do have a weakness of running over people IF the Holy Ghost doesn't temper them.

Or you can have a Melchonly that perfers to work alone. Note: they can over work themselves because they do the job themselves, since they want it done right.

Or you can have a Sanguine,that is the life of the party. Note: they may not remember where they put they keys to go home, or forget to bring the keys to unlock the church.

Or you can get a Phlymactic who does things at their own pace. Note: your deadline just may not get met.

Or you can get the Supine who gets along with everyone. Note: they hate to make decisions, so may take awhile to decide what to do.

All temperments have their place.
Addendum:

All personalities will eventually need to exhibit choleric attributes or they wll not make it as leaders. They will get eaten alive!

Otherwise, I agree with you totally.

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Old 02-13-2007, 11:07 AM
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All personalities will eventually need to exhibit choleric attributes or they wll not make it as leaders. They will get eaten alive!

Otherwise, I agree with you totally.
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