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Old 02-13-2009, 04:22 PM
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Read the account of the Witch of Endor yesterday again ... and your question still lingers, Blumie.

She saw Samuel. I don't think the bible lied to us ... I also read Josephus account ... and it's apparent that in the Jewish tradition they believed that what she saw.
Amen, bro.

Reminds me. You should get involved in the eschatological debate issue of a physical resurrection or not. Could use your intellect and keen consideration of scripture. I proposed the Greek for SPIRITUAL demands no lack of physical be considered. But it is being avoided like a hot potato by those who espouse no phys res.
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:42 PM
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I believe what Jesus said:

John 11:26
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Jesus has finished off death.
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Old 02-13-2009, 06:07 PM
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I believe what Jesus said, too. But it does not work out to UR.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:23 AM
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Okay you all are going to think Im crazy when I tell you this but Im going to tell you anyway.When I was16 years old my family was traveling to Texas from Indiana and we had a carbon monoxide leak in tha car we were riding in.I had taken a nap.When I woke up I told my mom and dad that I was sick and needed to get out of the car right now!!So they took the next exit and drove in to a Mcdonalds parking lot.Iwas in the back seat when mom opened my door I climbed out!!I walked to the front hood of the car and was looking into the Mcdonalds wondering if we were going to eat there.When I looked back I saw my mom pulling my body out of the car and that completely shocked me.Then every thing went black and I woke up very,very sick.I wasnt in my body for a fiew minutes.I was awake and staring at my self on the ground.
I have no problem with that. Yet it does nothing to prove the dead are alive.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:34 AM
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Did Christ SLEEP for two or three days before His resurrection? Or was Christ's SOUL DEAD? If Paul took Christ's experiences as a pattern for our immortal existences, WHY DO YOU NOT BELIEVE CHRIST SLEPT BEFORE HIS RESURRECTION?
Hi Michael,

Long time since I have been back to this thread. My question to you is where did I say Christ did not die (sleep) for 3 days until resurrection? I cant go back over all this right now but I sincerely doubt I said that. It would certainly be inconsistent if I did.

Indeed Jesus Christ slept just like every other man slept when he died. God raised HIM not just his body from the dead.

20: But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21: For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 1 Cor. 15:20-21

Paul is saying every man from Adam died. Jesus was the FIRST ONE to be made alive from among those who slept.

He NOT JUST HIS BODY became the firstfruits of them that SLEPT.

Just this alone should be sufficient to prove the point that resurrection is for the purpose of bringing THE DEAD back to life.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:29 PM
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I have no problem with that. Yet it does nothing to prove the dead are alive.
Well supose I didnt get put back into my body,it had to have been God that put me back because I did not move.What would do you supose would have happened to me,the living me?
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Well supose I didnt get put back into my body,it had to have been God that put me back because I did not move.What would do you supose would have happened to me,the living me?
You would have been dead.
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Soul sleeping? Are you a 7 Day Adventist or a apostlic.
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