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Old 11-03-2008, 09:52 PM
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Right and wrong, but God endorsed private property, Do not steal.
Here are some YES or NO questions....

Did God mandate land owners to allow the poor and destitute to glean the corners and edges of their fields?

Did God mandate a poor tithe with which the national storehouse system was to be stocked to provide for the poor and the widows?

Did not God rebuke the entire nation of Israel because land owners for depriving widows and the poor of their rights to glean?

Did not God rebuke the entire nation of Israel for neglecting the poor tithe that stocked the storehouse?

God made strong social provisions for the most destitute in the very Government ordained by his Holy Law. In fact the Psalms indicate that the agent of justice for the poor was....the King of Israel. Look it up.

To deprive the poor their right to glean, to with hold from the nation storehouse, to not hear the cry of the widow, was to rob the poor in God's eyes. Whatsoever you have done unto the least of these...you've done unto him. They robbed God by neglecting the storehouse...because through their neglect of social justice they robbed the poor. Thou shalt not steal.

Sadly, most would rather see a widow go hungry because they don't trust God to provide without tax cuts.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:53 PM
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The best answer I have for you is that they aren't as gullible as to believe the lies about Obama that you have. There's reality and the right wing tabloid propaganda. You choose the right wing tabloid propaganda. They choose truth. Obama isn't a Muslim. However, Obama does desire to see peace between Israel and the Arabs. While you might think they both want war without end...the truth is that the average Israeli and the average Arab also wants peace. No one wants to see their children blown to shreds.

Obama's answers and responses about his ties to radicals
such as Ayres, Wright and the Palestinian leader (name?) and others
we're less then satisfactory at best. It was NOT just propaganda.
It was on tape and DVD. I got to hear it for myself AND obama's
responses.

Why was he at that dinner honoring the PLO leader )name?) in
Los Angeles?? Why was the tape not released by the LA times??
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:56 PM
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Obama's answers and responses about his ties to radicals
such as Ayres, Wright and the Palestinian leader (name?) and others
we're less then satisfactory at best. It was NOT just propaganda.
It was on tape and DVD. I got to hear it for myself AND obama's
responses.

Why was he at that dinner honoring the PLO leader )name?) in
Los Angeles?? Why was the tape not released by the LA times??
StMark....if you haven't figured out that both the right and the left produce stupid DVDs claiming nearly anything and everything...you're a lost cause. Go on policy and not propaganda.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:57 PM
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obama is going to roll back the Bush tax cuts, the child credit will be reduced and there is talk about the Capital Gains Taxes and the Marriage Penalty being revived. My taxes will go up under Obama and the Dems.
Your taxes will not go up. Besides....if you demand that the poor and the widow living in squalor live in faith for God's provision when they can't afford food or medication....why can't you pay your taxes and trust God yourself?
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:59 PM
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Why Jews and blacks vote Democrat, Part I

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=30592
WorldNetDaily????? LOL

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Old 11-03-2008, 10:01 PM
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No one said anything about not paying taxes, I just don't want to pay anymore than I should. The Lord asks for 10%, Uncle Sam shouldn't ask for anymore.
Actually in ancient Israel there were three tithes and the Israelites paid significantly more than 10% for their national provisions on top of a head tax and periodic burdens instituted by the King for national projects.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:02 PM
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Child Tax Credit is 3k per child I believe, it will be reduced

The marriage Penalty will be revived and taxes on investments will go up.

We will pay more in these areas.
The child tax credit will not be reduced. Give me your sources please.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:03 PM
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Amen!!! But I still wouldn't vote for Obama though(or McCain). The Democratics and Republicans are all part of the same ballteam just like WWF wrestling. Obama and McCain are buddies behind the scenes. There probably high fiveing each other as they laugh at our stupidity and ignorance.
I wouldn't doubt it.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:09 PM
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Yes he is, but he also allowed Israel to have a king when that was not his will or intention. It is a partnership, God has a will, man has a will, inspite of Man's will, God still prevails.
You do err knowing not the Scriptures. It was God's desire to give Israel a King. In the Law of Moses, long before the institution of a King we read....
Deuteronomy 17:14-15
14When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me;
15Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.
It was God's will and intention that Israel have a king...the issue was that Israel wanted a king that God didn't choose for them. Had they waited, God would have lifted David up to rule them righteously in His time. Israel's problem was that they acted prematurely.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:11 PM
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What a bunch of self righteous, disrespectful, and judgmental HOOEY! That's not a prophetic word, that's sour grapes! Sorry about your lay off, sorry about your financial circumstances, sorry about your luck. But coming from a preacher-type I take exception to your characterization that we are out of touch with reality or that our politics are motivated purely because of greed. I am a preacher who works two jobs, my wife works a full time job and we know what reality is thank you.

And as far as preaching politics from the pulpit, I don't do it. I preached Sunday "Election Day" preaching that THE Election Day is coming when Christ returns. He's not voting for the GOP or the Dems, His vote is for the Church! We are His elect. We need to cast our vote for Him with the way we live our daily lives. I tell our people to pray and vote their conscience and then go on serving Jesus. Because in the end we are citizens of His Kingdom.

Spiritual darkness is coming not because the "church is the lapdog" of any party. Its coming because His Word said it would before Jesus returns. Its coming because the forces of darkness want to destroy the Church and Israel. But I digress, you already have all this endtime stuff figured out, don't you?

I pray for your pastor, if you have one.
Go figure you'd say such. lol You'd vote for the Devil himself if he was a card carrying Republican.
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