Colin Powell is no Republican - Page 12

Ferd · #**111** 10-21-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Antipas

If something happens to McCain, his choosing Palin does jeopardize the nation because she's not ready bro. No Presidential candidate has "wiggle room" to put the nation in danger. That's why I see McCain as unwise and unfit to lead. Obama's pick, even if he didn't have the "wiggle room" is far better for America should something happen to the chief executive.

And here is where that work hypocracy comes into play. if Palin is too inexperienced then Obama is for the same reasons.

But I dare say, no one voting for him thinks that is the case.

If McCain were elected and died in office, then Palin would be in the same situation that Obama was in when he picked Biden. Palin would need to nominate (for senate approaval) a seasoned person to fill the VP position.

Ferd · #**112** 10-21-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

What is up with this? McCain is going to win!!!

LOL! your lips to God's ear... but Im on record and will stay with my pick.... its gonna be the Jr. Senator from Illinois.

Pressing-On · #**113** 10-21-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

LOL! your lips to God's ear... but Im on record and will stay with my pick.... its gonna be the Jr. Senator from Illinois.

I don't like you today!!!

MikeinAR · #**114** 10-21-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I going to put you in a size 7 women's shoe box and ship you to Tawain!

I got a huge kick out of that. I haven't laughed that hard in a while.

TRFrance · #**115** 10-21-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Antipas

For the record, I would like to agree with Ferd. I believe that a seasoned governor is far more qualified for the office of President than a Senator. However, Palin, in my opinion, doesn't qualify as a "seasoned governor". We don't even know if she could win the next gubernatorial election in Alaska.

Obama doesn't qualify as a "seasoned" senator either.

According to factcheck.org, Obama has spent only 143 working days as a Senator. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...cain_been.html

SenatorPalin has spent more working days as a Governor than Obama has as a Senator.

tstew · #**116** 10-21-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Obama doesn't qualify as a "seasoned" senator either.

According to factcheck.org, Obama has spent only 143 working days as a Senator. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...cain_been.html

SenatorPalin has spent more working days as a Governor than Obama has as a Senator.

TR, you are better than that ridiculous stat and that link.

StMark · #**117** 10-21-2008, 06:35 PM

I wonder why CP is bitter towards his own party???

Why is he apart of a party he hates?

If I hated the Republicans, I'd switch parties

Ferd · #**118** 10-21-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew

TR, you are better than that ridiculous stat and that link.

You should be happy with the link. it debunks the 143 days claim.

in fact, I prefer to say he was an active senator for two years because that was how long he was active in the senate, before he began to run full time for the presidency.

It still leaves the Dems choice with about as thin a resume as anyone to have ever won the office...

tstew · #**119** 10-21-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

You should be happy with the link. it debunks the 143 days claim.

in fact, I prefer to say he was an active senator for two years because that was how long he was active in the senate, before he began to run full time for the presidency.

It still leaves the Dems choice with about as thin a resume as anyone to have ever won the office...

I went back and reread the link. TR was actually saying that the 143 day figure was accurate and was using this link as a source. I have talked to TR enough to know that he is better than that ridiculous stat. I saw the table in the beginning that was comparing days to years and turned away. Since TR was using this to verify his post, I figured that they were using that table as a good measure.
Let me just remind you that even during his candidacy he voted more than enough to be graded by the Washington Journal and of course we have already discussed this and the fact that McCain didn't. I'm just saying that if we are going to acknowledge his votes during his candidacy enough to grade him as the most liberal Senator, we should at least acknowledge them enough to give him credit for working.

TRFrance · #**120** 10-21-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew

TR, you are better than that ridiculous stat and that link.

If you feel the stat is ridiculous, then please tell us why.
I have no problem being corrected. If you have a more accurate number for us, feel free to share.

Keep in mind, however, it doesnt change the underlying point being made.

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(In fairness, I'll say I've also read that 143 may be the number of times the senate met while he was serving as senator, or the number of days he was on the senate floor. The numbers I've seen seem to vary and its not easy to pin down the exact number right now.)

But it doesnt change the underlying point here.... Even if if you make the case that Obama worked more than 143 days in the Senate [which he may indeed have], he has been on the campaign trail almost non-stop since early 2007... Meanwhile Palin, who took over as governor in December 2006, worked a solid 20 months governing Alaska up to the time McCain picked her 2 months ago.

Thus the key argument remains. Palin has spent more time of hands-on governance in her post than Obama has spent in the senate doing his senatorial duties. Thus, in my view, those who try to minimize Palin's experience level, while touting Obama's time of "federal senatorial experience" are kidding themselves.

And of course, as a senator you have 99 other people helping to make decisions. A governor has no such luxury. The level of responsibility and accountability is much greater as a governor.