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Old 11-06-2008, 08:20 PM
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Re: Did God ever command or desire praise or worsh

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I don't have the time, nor the inclination to waste my time expounding to someone who wouldn't listen anyway.

And besides, a tactical debating ploy is to answer a question with a question.

My question is this: How does God tell you what is right and what is wrong?
I showed you with scripture,I have the mind of christ (anointing).
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:02 PM
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You know the thing is,I can prove all the other prophets wrong as I prove people wrong here.Why don't you try explaining away some of the contradictions I have posted from the bible ? I have ask others to and they couldn't.
I already did. You haven't ever proven anything other than you think you know everything and everyone else is wrong...because you say so.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:06 PM
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Service is not worship.
yes it is

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This is worship,Heb.13:[15] By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.[16] But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

Do you do the under lined ?
That's an aspect OF worship. Praise is an aspect of worship. Prayer is too.

You need to study worship and how it is used. Religious service is worship

The Old Testament idea is therefore the reverential attitude of mind or body or both, combined with the more generic notions of religions adoration, obedience, service.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:08 PM
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Yes,get out your different worded perverted Bible.

22For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
Prove it's perverted. You just don't like the fact that I blew away your so called contradiction. Nice try though...force the topic to one translation and ignore everything else I posted ROFL
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Yes kinda like your multiple different worded bibles that all say different truths. Well,if you don't like what one says,get out a different one.
This is funny. You demand everyone to answer you but many did not because they know you would just ignore them and resort to unfounded assertions.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:16 PM
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yes it is


That's an aspect OF worship. Praise is an aspect of worship. Prayer is too.

You need to study worship and how it is used. Religious service is worship

The Old Testament idea is therefore the reverential attitude of mind or body or both, combined with the more generic notions of religions adoration, obedience, service.
You say Religious service is worship,The creator don't.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:36 PM
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Prove it's perverted. You just don't like the fact that I blew away your so called contradiction. Nice try though...force the topic to one translation and ignore everything else I posted ROFL
You blew nothing away except the KJV bible.Your perverted bible says nothing to the same effect as the KJV.

Your perverted bible.Jer 7:22 Consider this: When I spoke to your ancestors after I brought them out of Egypt, I did not merely give them commands about burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Jer 7:23 I also explicitly commanded them: "Obey me. If you do, I will be your God and you will be my people. Live exactly the way I tell you and things will go well with you."

KJV. 22For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

I did not merely and I also, compleatly changed the meaning and perverts the KJV.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:53 PM
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Worship

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προσκυνέω
proskuneō
pros-koo-neh‘-o
From 4314 and probably a derivative of 2965 (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master’s hand); to fawn or crouch to, that is, (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore): - worship.
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Main Entry: 1wor·ship
Pronunciation: \ˈwər-shəp also ˈwȯr-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English worshipe worthiness, respect, reverence paid to a divine being, from Old English weorthscipe worthiness, respect, from weorth worthy, worth + -scipe -ship
Date: before 12th century
1chiefly British : a person of importance —used as a title for various officials (as magistrates and some mayors)
2: reverence offered a divine being or supernatural power ; also : an act of expressing such reverence
3: a form of religious practice with its creed and ritual
4: extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem <worship of the dollar>
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:15 AM
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Re: Did God ever command or desire praise or worsh

Maybe we should talk about how in the scripture God gets angry,then turns around and commands us not to.That would be like me telling my kids not to do something and then do it myself.It's ok for the father but not the children ?
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