Who then can be lost?

[He's My Friend]

Originally Posted by Nina

Brother,

Do You know any human vacuum cleaners?

How difficult is it when You and I both know that the Apostolic ranks are RIFE with this problem? We cannot judge anyone...let alone be able to know when someone is a true glutton....why would I care?
It's the only "legal sin," if You will.

Have You ever seen a glutton disfellowshipped? Have you ?

Nina

On the "glutton" thing, as it has been pointed out many times, size does not determine if one is a glutton.

I am very honest in the questions I have asked.

[Nina]

Originally Posted by He's My Friend

On the "glutton" thing, as it has been pointed out many times, size does not determine if one is a glutton.

I am very honest in the questions I have asked.

What do You think about a 400 pound evangelist who can eat 3 and a half chickens?

Do You not see the double standard?<--------------hey I just made an oxymoron!

Nina

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Nina

Brother,

Do You know any human vacuum cleaners?

How difficult is it when You and I both know that the Apostolic ranks are RIFE with this problem?

It's the only "legal sin," if You will.

Have You ever seen a glutton disfellowshipped?

Nina

I saw a few fellows shipped in the pine box thus I guess they were dissed.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Nina

What do You think about a 400 pound evangelist who can eat 3 and a half chickens?

Do You not see the double standard?<--------------hey I just made an oxymoron!

Nina

No a fat moron.

I confess I am guilty I do not know how to determine who is a glutton I suspect some to be but what if they have repented and on their 59th diet plan and have had a bypass operation?

[Nina]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No a fat moron.

I confess I am guilty I do not know how to determine who is a glutton I suspect some to be but what if they have repented and on their 59th diet plan and have had a bypass operation?

Brother,

Are You telling me that You don't know ANY people You think COULD VERY POSSIBLY BE gluttons?



What if they have repented and are on the nicotine patch?

Don't You see the double standard????????

Nina

[Bro-Larry]

Who then can be lost?
Only those who refuse to believe that the work that Jesus did made them righteous. "Those that are made righteous, by faith, shall live." (literal from Greek)

John Baptist said, "I indeed baptize you with water, unto repentance,..." but; "believe on the greater One who shall come after me. He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire." (paraphrase) When Paul preached this to the Baptist brethren at Ephesus, they responded by immediately being baptized in the name of "...the one who came after John," that is, "....Christ Jesus." They then received the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Therefore believing on Christ Jesus, should lead to water baptism, in Jesus name, and also receiving the Spirit baptism that Jesus offers. The believing is what saves us. The water/Spirit baptism, is not "works of righteousness which we have done", but works "that are wrought in God".

[He's My Friend]

Originally Posted by Nina

What do You think about a 400 pound evangelist who can eat 3 and a half chickens?

Do You not see the double standard?<--------------hey I just made an oxymoron!

Nina

I must confess, I have not thought about a 400 lb evangelist, since I do not know of such a person.

If I did have knowledge of such a person, I would not make it my business to
police his food intake.

[Nina]

Originally Posted by He's My Friend

I must confess, I have not thought about a 400 lb evangelist, since I do not know of such a person.

If I did have knowledge of such a person, I would not make it my business to
police his food intake.

If You had a friend like him, what would You do?

Do You suppose he has any true friends who should confront him?

Do You suppose he has some accountability (Pastor?) in his life who should help him?

Nina

[He's My Friend]

Originally Posted by Nina

If You had a friend like him, what would You do?

Do You suppose he has any true friends who should confront him?

Do You suppose he has some accountability (Pastor?) in his life who should help him?

Nina

Nina,

In all honesty, that is a lot of "supposing".

If YOU know of such a person, why don't you confront that person?

Have you confronted him ? Are you feeling convicted to confront him ?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Nina

Brother,

Are You telling me that You don't know ANY people You think COULD VERY POSSIBLY BE gluttons?



What if they have repented and are on the nicotine patch?

Don't You see the double standard????????

Nina

EATING IS NOT A SIN. SMOKING IS A SIN. Being a glutton is sinful it is the excess that makes it a sin however smoking is a sin if you smoke ONE cigarette.