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09-25-2007, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Imagine taking a trip from Jerusalem to Spain, by rowboat and then back to Jerusalem via Europe through Asia Minor by foot? You need to ask yourself this question, "how hard that must have been?" Now how many people were in the Roman Empire I could only guess, the job was hard and it took these men only 40 years to preach and convert souls to their message. The Pentecostal Jesus Name movement has made a huge impact on the world and they did that without Internet, and Television. Can anyone name me the list of all those non-UPCI Brothers who are on television who are world famous or even nationally known? Listen there are One God Jesus name groups out there who have no problem with televisions why don't we have any of their folks hitting the big time because of television technology?
When I was in the world I never remember any One God Jesus name television commercials or televangelists who preached Acts 2:38 or One God?
You meaning to tell me that all Pentecostal who are Jesus name are only UPCI? Where are all these One-God televangelists from television past?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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but... what about Africa and Asia and the far west portion of Europe (modern day Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, & England) and Northern Europe (Finland, Sweden, etc.)??
What about Russia and Asia (China, Korea, Singapore, Japan, etc.)??? What about Australia???
What about the Native Americans, the Mayans, & the Incans???
Paul reached a small fraction of the people on earth, even with the only a couple hundred million people max on the earth when he lived... He barely reached a fraction of them...
and the "Jesus name" movement hasn't really affected the world in a major way... I mean... We haven't changed the lives of 99+% of the planet's population... Its great that we've saved souls and that's important, but to think that we're some kind of world-changing movement that has changed the very way the world works is, well, just flat out wrong...
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09-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
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I was told today that there will be an astonishing Surprise Announcement Made at General conference this week ! ! !
I am forbidden to give out any more information on this but it's going to Rock Tampa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we'll see what transpires. AND!! DO NOT PM me and ask me for any information on this. I promised I would not tell and I am sticking to it !
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Thad what they told you isn't true, stop with the drama.
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09-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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I love it when people ask this question! If you crunch the numbers, 12 men turned the world upside down.
By current estimates there are more than 4,000,000 (very conservative numbers) oneness folks on the earth today. If we really got a burden and quit waiting on someone else to reach our world it could be done in less than 10.5 years. (each on win just one each year and teach them to do the same. 8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1b 24m,2b 48m,4b 96m,8b 192m
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I agree with this .... I don't think the 12 won everyone back then ....... the people they won began to win people.
I agree that the people I know(including myself) are lazy. We are happy and don't want anyone to upset our applecart.
When I invite people to church that i meet around town that I am meeting for the first time, I invite them to a neighboring church!
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09-25-2007, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
but... what about Africa and Asia and the far west portion of Europe (modern day Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, & England) and Northern Europe (Finland, Sweden, etc.)??
What about Russia and Asia (China, Korea, Singapore, Japan, etc.)??? What about Australia???
What about the Native Americans, the Mayans, & the Incans???
Paul reached a small fraction of the people on earth, even with the only a couple hundred million people max on the earth when he lived... He barely reached a fraction of them...
and the "Jesus name" movement hasn't really affected the world in a major way... I mean... We haven't changed the lives of 99+% of the planet's population... Its great that we've saved souls and that's important, but to think that we're some kind of world-changing movement that has changed the very way the world works is, well, just flat out wrong...
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Hey if you get to sleep right now you can get up early and watch Barney.
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09-25-2007, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Yes.
I said a Brazilian work! I never said a work that speaks Brazilian! Listen; try to read what I post with a little more care as to not misrepresent what I am trying to convey to you. What I would like to suggest to you is start paying attention to what is posted please.
Yeah...right.
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well, since a "Brazilian" work if not based on language, but on nationality, would be a racist work then God is not in it...
God doesn't approve of racism, brother... and a work that is a "Brazilian" work would have to be racist... now if it is a work that speaks "Portugese" and reaches out to anyone who speaks that language, then that is not racist... but to label it a "Brazilian" work is wrong, because it infringes upon racism...
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09-25-2007, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Try to read a Bible.
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I have...
Please show me in the Bible where someone went to North or South America to preach the gospel...
Please show me where Paul went into Africa (say, the Congo or Nigeria or South Africa) preaching the gospel...
Please show me where someone went to modern day France, Spain, Germany, England, Sweden, Denmark, or other North/West European countries...
Please show me where someone went to India, China, Japan, Australia, Korea, or Russia...
None of this happened in the Bible... The revival in the Bible was based in Rome, Greeze, Asia Minor, and around Israel, and that's it... it was not world-wide, it didn't turn the world upside down, most of the world wasn't effected at all...
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09-25-2007, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
well, since a "Brazilian" work if not based on language, but on nationality, would be a racist work then God is not in it...
God doesn't approve of racism, brother... and a work that is a "Brazilian" work would have to be racist... now if it is a work that speaks "Portugese" and reaches out to anyone who speaks that language, then that is not racist... but to label it a "Brazilian" work is wrong, because it infringes upon racism...
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what are you talking about? You're foaming from the mouth, and not making any sense. What you're posting to me has nothing to do with what I posted to you. Listen try to answer what I do post and stop the rambling and ranting. Tell you what clean up all the Legos off the floor of your bedroom before your mother walks in.
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"Nikita Khruschev said, "the living will envy the dead," why are so many people bent on surviving a nuclear war?
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09-25-2007, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
what are you talking about? You're foaming from the mouth, and not making any sense. What you're posting to me has nothing to do with what I posted to you. Listen try to answer what I do post and stop the rambling and ranting. Tell you what clean up all the Legos off the floor of your bedroom before your mother walks in.
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you know, its funny...
what I said had something to do with what you posted, it explained whta I meant which should have already been clear... Namely that having a church aimed at a certain race (such as "Brazilian" or "Italian" or "Australian") is wrong, but haivng one that speaks a language spoken in an area that isn't the most common language is fine because it is about breaking language barriers and not racism (like a Spanish-speaking church or a Portugese-speaking church)...
But, hey, keep insulting me, its all good... I'm sure that God and the moderators of this site are totally ok with you personally attacking and insulting other people... I mean, hey, its totally the Christian way to live, right?
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09-25-2007, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
*****EXTRA ***** EXTRA *****EXTRA*****
I was told today that there will be an astonishing Surprise Announcement Made at General conference this week ! ! !
I am forbidden to give out any more information on this but it's going to Rock Tampa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we'll see what transpires. AND!! DO NOT PM me and ask me for any information on this. I promised I would not tell and I am sticking to it !
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I think I heard the same news!!!!!!!!!! I won't tell either!!!!!!!!!!! We will see what happens!!!!
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09-25-2007, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
what are you talking about? You're foaming from the mouth, and not making any sense. What you're posting to me has nothing to do with what I posted to you. Listen try to answer what I do post and stop the rambling and ranting. Tell you what clean up all the Legos off the floor of your bedroom before your mother walks in.
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
But, hey, keep insulting me, its all good... I'm sure that God and the moderators of this site are totally ok with you personally attacking and insulting other people... I mean, hey, its totally the Christian way to live, right?
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I don't understand why all these libs want TV anyway. You can get on AFF and get all the entertainment you need. We have action, drama, comedy, anything you want. Just make sure you clean your rooms and get in your daily Bible reading before you waste your day on AFF.
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