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Old 07-23-2007, 08:28 PM
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Why don't we just cut through all the what you or I or they think, it quit simple really! "PEOPLE SHOULD MIND THEIR OWN DOINGS, BUSINESS AND STOP LOOKING TO OTHERS FOR ANSWER THAT ONLY YOU CAN DECIDE"!
I'm going to mark you down in the 'undecided' column. Is that okay?





A guy asks people how they reached their decision, and people start hollering.

Daddy always said that when you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that you hit. I don't know if that helps or not . . .
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I have brethren who are UC and some who are a little more liberal, and certainly I believe in personal Holiness, but if someone feels differently than me on a non-salvational issue ,I don't put them down or say that there are in bondage and such.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:35 PM
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I witnessed something once and it stuck with me for a long time. A very good looking gentleman who was from obvious wealth was waiting at a stoplight. A convertible sports car drove up next to him and the occupants of the car were two beautiful young women. I could see them start to try and get his "eye" and he ever so slyly put his hand in the air and rubbed his ring with his other hand, never once making eye contact with the flirty girls. I thought, what a great husband and I wondered if his wife knew what kind of MAN she was married to. They got the message that day that he was off of the market.

The day my wife takes OFF her ring, please send her a sympathy card for I am taking a dirt nap on the wrong side of the daisies.
Maybe it WAS his wife :-)
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:36 PM
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I have brethren who are UC and some who are a little more liberal, and certainly I believe in personal Holiness, but if someone feels differently than me on a non-salvational issue ,I don't put them down or say that there are in bondage and such.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:41 PM
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God doesn't have a cookie cutter mentality ,and certainly God knows those that are His.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:41 PM
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I'm going to mark you down in the 'undecided' column. Is that okay?





A guy asks people how they reached their decision, and people start hollering.

Daddy always said that when you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that you hit. I don't know if that helps or not . . .
I find it unsettling when you have grown adults who must ask other what they should do... God gave you a mind use it!
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:42 PM
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I sure did. I've seen it up close, and, unfortunately, I've been in the middle of it.

I spent a stupid amount of money on my wife's engagement ring. I wanted her to know that my offer was serious. I paid cash - not credit. Fast forward 6 or 7 years later. We've moved to a new town, and are attending a smallish church. In response to observing this ring, one of the ladies began trading her ring in on a slightly larger diamond each year. Another lady went nutso into debt to acquire a rock bigger than my wife's. It didn't seem right to her that a younger woman have a bigger diamond. She started to act very strangely. Her husband was the treasurer. There was a scandal regarding 'accounting irregularities' shortly after we had moved away.

If I hadn't bought that ring, if I hadn't moved to that town and that church, those people wouldn't have engaged in such wasteful and destructive activities. I suppose you could take the tack that all we did was bring a latent problem to the surface, but I don't enjoy being used in this capacity.

Alright Prax, I answered your questions. How about you answer mine from the original post?

There's a couple of other unanswered questions from earlier, too, Brother Epley and somebody else.
So you blame the person wearing a ring for the OTHER persons spirit?!?!?! Good grief! That reminds me of third world nations where they rape a girl then blame her and kill her for dishonoring the family.

It sounds like to me that person came pre-jacked up to begin with. Blaming someone else, rather than taking responsibility for our own actions and our own fallen human nature is antithesis to what the word says. Her temptation was out of the lust of her OWN heart. Perhaps something she never settled to begin with.

Might I add that if THIS is really true, then we should all live in shacks and take the bus for fear of causing someone else to be tempted with a bad spirit and go buy a more expensive car or house...

Again, the problem is where HER eyes were to begin with...on material things and other people's business or on God.

In fact Notice what James says

as 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
Jas 2:2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
Jas 2:3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
Jas 2:4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
Jas 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
Jas 2:6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

Notice James did not once try to apply fault to the person wearing the ring or the clothes? Something is wrong, really wrong when we blame everyone else for our own stinking spirits
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:44 PM
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So here is the question on my mind this morning:

If you don't wear a wedding ring, what is the reason, what is the biblical verse or principal that backs it up?
Im not married. Nor do I believe the bible backs up NOT wearing one.
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If you do wear a wedding ring, where do you find biblical support for your practice?
Im not married. Nor do I believe the bible instructs us to wear one. It's not a doctrinal issue
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:55 PM
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Soooo, because one area is being neglected and another isn't preachers are supposed to feel bad about preaching the one they do preach?
I am simply saying that if these issues are the issues that most ministers feel are the important issues that need to be addressed in 2007 then someone is really out of touch.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:57 PM
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I am simply saying that if these issues are the issues that most ministers feel are the important issues that need to be addressed in 2007 then someone is really out of touch.
I saw that after I made this post and was just too lazy to go back and delete it. Hehehehe! Besides, it's always fun to keep a good argument going and I don't mind doing my part, however insignificant.
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