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View Poll Results: Do you still support the War in Iraq?
Yes 100% 8 19.51%
No 13 31.71%
I have never supported this War. Bring the troops home. 10 24.39%
I still support the War but feel it needs new direction. 10 24.39%
I don't care. 0 0%
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:14 PM
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not you.... don't worry about it....

quite possibly nothing at all.... just a slang word I personally wouldn't have used....
...which is why I offered you "(removed)" it is a really nice sounding work no?
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:16 PM
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There is the Sr Circut and then there is real baseball. I always go for REAL BASEBALL!
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:19 PM
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my heart is drifting ferd, dont ever mess with my cards, dt
LOL! your revenge is that I am a Rangers fan.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:21 PM
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LOL! your revenge is that I am a Rangers fan.
well there you have it, sorry for you, and the rangers, lol, dt
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:24 PM
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well there you have it, sorry for you, and the rangers, lol, dt
Being a Rangers fan might be worse than being a Cubs fan. we even have Sammy.

Now that they have started playing a little better, all talk of breaking it up and starting over seems to be going out the window.

they really do need to have a fire sell and rebuild. this team is bound for bad baseball for a long time to come.
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Who's that? LOL! Do they play basketball?
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:42 PM
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Who's that? LOL! Do they play basketball?
Easty, stop trying to be an Ultra Con! we both know you are a secret organized sports fanatic!
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Easty, stop trying to be an Ultra Con! we both know you are a secret organized sports fanatic!
another closet upc sports watcher, come on out where the sun is shining, lol,dt
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:25 AM
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Re: Do you still support the War in Iraq?

My ( An U.S. Army Iraq War Veteran) views on these two ongoing wars.

There are many great and moral people that are in the military who believe that they are doing what is right under God. The problem is that it is the government leaders who decide the use of our military. It is ultimately the will of the current government leaders who decided the outcome of military action. Usually these leaders don't even see war. It is our military and the foreign country which they occupy that has to suffer the pains of war.

Sometimes it is good to be blunt and sometimes it is not, so I am going to take a chance and be blunt on this one. I do think that the Military is now being used for evil. I don't know if many people realize it or not but the president is the commander and chief of the Army forces. Our president Obama has clearly shown how he feels about Jesus Christ (although I am not saying this to judge Him, I wish that he would turn to God).

As far to my knowledge there were never WMDs found in Iraqi - which means the thousands/ maybe even millions of Iraqis died for no reason. On the initial invasion we bombed Iraq all night. We did to them probably 10 fold the damage that happened to us in 911.

Also -- after the invasion many Iraqi military personal where taken after they surrendered. This was th time to where we were on the hunt for MWDs, so if we never found those weapons then what are we holding the Iraqi Solider's for who surrender during the initial invasion?


There is ALOT that doesn't add up. All I know is that we all need to try to get right with God.

About 911 . My heart goes out to the families of the people who died in the 911 attack. However I do not believe that a man who lives on the other side of the world in a cave (Osama) with no running water is able to penetrate the one of the most advanced technological defense systems on the face of the planet or is able to house a lab that stores anthrax with the ability to ship it. The more facts I research the more about 911 that just does not add up.


The military - Honestly I cannot say right now if that is the best place to be at this time. Our last and our current presidents have agendas that I am not so sure about. Honestly I do not think that Bush's intentions where genuine in this Iraq War. There are so many things about the Iraq War and 911 that just don't add up and Obama says that he is Christian, but I have heard him make fun and mock God's word in a speech.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPIr5qJEtP0



What scares me about this is that this is president is the commander and chief of the armed forces. So if he is against Jesus Christ, and he commands the military, well does that make his command decisions against God?

It’s all screwed up. I am not pointing fingers, but we have screwed up leaders who lie to us (the military) and make us thing that we are fighting for a good cause. It is all so confusing b/c personal agendas are mixed in with truth.


For example:

Was Iraq a treat to the United States?

My answer is no. After we bombed and killed thousands and after thousand of our military where killed we found out that he did not have MWDs. As a result the people hate us (the military) for killing their families during the initial bombing of Iraq and continued military operations. The truth is that if another country came here to the to the United States and killed our family members for something that they did not have ( MWDs) I am sure that people would stand and fight the opposing country (please do not get me wrong, I am not saying that it is right to take revenge, but the reality is, is that I do believe that most people would do it). Our president orders us to go over there and of course the people who hate us shoot and make IEDs at us for revenge. As a result we shoot back to defend ourselves, and raid buildings in search for IEDs. This creates a non-ending the cycle of death and hate repeats itself as the Iraqi civilians and the military pays the price with their lives while the people who declared war sleep peaceful in their beds.


Was Saddam a bad man to his people?

Well I have to say yes ( but he was not a treat to the United States). I don't say this just b/c of something I heard or read about, I have talked an Iraqi FPS and he have told me stories of what Saddam did to the Iraqis.


Now we are stuck because I think it would be kind a wrong to just pull out of Iraq after all of the damaged we have caused and because of all the Iraqi people who may need our help; but at the same time our mere presence in Iraq brings trouble ( b/c it all goes back to that cycle of death).

So you see my friends, it’s all twisted up.


It is kind of twisted because it is an endless cycle of death. The reality is that those people are going to hate us because of the deaths that they have suffered during the initial invasion.

They fire at the military for revenge ( for the death of their families and loved ones) and of course if you shoot at the military they are going to shoot back to defend themselves.

I know that no everyone believes in God, but I do and my belief/ morals are based on the Bible ( KJV). Every ones knows a famous quote made by Jesus:

“Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.” – Matthew 26:52 ( KJV)

After Iraqis loose family members due to military action they may feel like there is nothing left to live for and choose to “live by the sword” by firing ( or using IEDs) on American troops. As a result our troops fire back and perform more combat ops to search for IEDs, insurgent actively etc. Of course during combat ops more Soldiers and Iraqis are killed and the surviving ones (Iraqis) seek to “live by the sword” to avenge the death of their loved ones.

See where this is going? It becomes an endless cycle of death that merely repeats itself over and over again.

Even though I think Bush had an personal agenda in this war, we are like at a catch 22 now. I don’t think that we should have gone it but if we pull straight out we leave Iraqi completely open because they do not have a strong governing authority. One the other hand the longer we stay the longer that American G.I. – Iraqi cycle of death continues.

It kind of reminds me of the Roman coliseums back in the day. Where Roman leaders threw people in a pit and they were told to fight to the death- in this case those people are the American G.I.s and the Iraqi people.

My heart goes out to the military personnel, Iraqis and Afghan people who are caught up in the middle of all of this.


Sometimes it is good to be blunt and sometimes it is not, so I am going to take a chance and be blunt on this one. I do think that the Military is now being used for evil. I don't know if many people realize it or not but the president is the commander and chief of the Army forces. Our president Obama has clearly shown how he feels about Jesus Christ (although I am not saying this to judge Him, I wish that he would turn to God).

As far to my knowledge there were never WMDs found in Iraqi - which means the thousands/ maybe even millions of Iraqis died for no reason. On the initial invasion we bombed Iraq all night. We did to them probably 10 fold the damage that happened to us in 911.

Also – after the invasion many Iraqi military personal where taken after they surrendered. This was th time to where we were on the hunt for MWDs, so if we found that Iraqi


There is ALOT that doesn’t add up. All I know is that we all need to try to get right with God.

About 911 - I do not believe that a man who live on the other side of the world in a cave (Osama) with no running water is able to penetrate the one of the most advanced technological defense systems on the face of the planet or is able to house a lab that stores anthrax with the ability to ship it.


What I do know is that because of “the war on terror” the U.S. government was sort of given itself the ability to rage war on any group of people of any religious faith etc. And attempt to justify it by identifying it as part of the War or terror” – something to think about.


…much love in Christ
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