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03-26-2011, 12:02 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!!
One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars.
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03-26-2011, 12:04 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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03-26-2011, 01:02 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!!
One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars.
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They might just think you'd drank your 5 hour energy that morning.
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03-26-2011, 06:29 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!!
One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars.
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I think 99.9% of people in general would look at you that way if you did that!
Perhaps being untethered from the Mothership will help MJ understand his preaching doesn't have to be performance based or done for response. Results is much better than response!
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03-26-2011, 09:52 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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I hear great things about MJ but if this video clip is his usual speaking style I would last about 5 minutes in a service with him preaching. What is it with the screaming? Why do preachers think they have to do that to be powerful and effective or "annointed"? Arghhhh!!!!!
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I am pretty sure MJ has changed his preaching style ... actually, he told me personally that he had changed preaching styles. Listening to his podcast on the church website confirm this ... cc1 you would be right at home.
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03-27-2011, 11:13 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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I am pretty sure MJ has changed his preaching style ... actually, he told me personally that he had changed preaching styles. Listening to his podcast on the church website confirm this ... cc1 you would be right at home. 
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And his old UPC fans will probably be very sad as they will think this means he has lost his "annointing" (I mean we all know the louder you preach the more annointed you are!)
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-27-2011, 11:32 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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and his old upc fans will probably be very sad as they will think this means he has lost his "annointing" (i mean we all know the louder you preach the more annointed you are!)
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03-27-2011, 11:48 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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LOL!!! I have a relative who is a UPC preacher. He is one of the finest men I have ever met. I have known him since he was just out of his teens. In person he is one of the most mild mannered easy going people you will ever meet.
Somehow I had managed to never hear him preach over the 15+ years he had been in the family then a few years ago that opportunity came up. Another relative came up to me and said "I have to warn you that not only is he a screamer but he doesn't even build up to it - he is hollaring from the first sentance of his sermon!". I was pretty surprised and thankful for the warning. Sure enough he came out of the gate screaming from the first word and ended the same way!
I have no doubt his preaching style is a result of the mentors he was around during the formative years of his ministry. He is not doing it for show, etc.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-27-2011, 11:58 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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03-28-2011, 05:55 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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Im fond of saying he done stopped preachin and gone to screechin !That is why i like the Bookers,Alvears,Coons, styles, for the most part .Raise your voice to make a point, drop to almost a whisper, it forces you to listen up.
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