Chester Wright's Letter to the UPC!!!!!

[Trouvere]

Did anyone read any of Brother Wrights other articles? The one about his conversion experience is great.I love what he said about Brother Marvin Cole.He paid him the highest compliment.

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

I've already read that mess.
Not worth the webspace IMO.
NI

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

I call it that because his position IMO is very misled and his thinking is severely misguided.
Again, this is IMO.
NI

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

While I disagreed strongly with the article, it is encumbent upon you to prove your false accusation that I bashed Bro Wright.
I certainly did no such thing.
NI

You called his writings a "mess," something "not worth the webspace." You stated his position is "very misled" and his thinking is "severely misguided."

Perhaps bash is a little strong, but you still slapped him around a little.

By the way . . . did you even read the articles? Not saying you didn't, but your first response made it seem as though you didn't look at them.

One prominient district official in our area has been heard to say if we lose standards we lose our identity as an organization. The mission statement The whole gospel to the whole world has been replaced with man-made standards and no television.

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Hmmm. . . just looked at the UPCI.org website - there's no mission statement even posted on there. We've got the Doctrine and Standards posted, but no mission statement.

Originally Posted by jshorts

One prominient district official in our area has been heard to say if we lose standards we lose our identity as an organization. The mission statement The whole gospel to the whole world has been replaced with man-made standards and no television.

You and Coop often sound like twin brothers! Or a broken record! Or Both!

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

That's awesome....did you do that or get it from someplace?

No, I didn't do it....I googled it from Google Images.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by philjones

You and Coop often sound like twin brothers! Or a broken record! Or Both!

That is true.

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by jshorts

One prominient district official in our area has been heard to say if we lose standards we lose our identity as an organization. The mission statement The whole gospel to the whole world has been replaced with man-made standards and no television.

Originally Posted by philjones

You and Coop often sound like twin brothers! Or a broken record! Or Both!

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

That is true.

To PJ and SE - What did JS say that isn't true? Can either of you give any substance to an argument against what he stated, other than just a verbal put-down?

JS gave a statement from another, "if we lose standards, we lose our identity as an organization." And, "the mission statement . . . has been replaced with man-made standards and no television."

Again, other than just elementary put-downs, what can either of you give as an argument against that?

Have not our dress standards become our identity?

Our identity isn't being Oneness or preaching the doctrine of salvation - there's other organizations like that around.

What do most forums debate? Even UPC licensed ministers-only forums debate this and not all can agree.

Dress Standards.

It's become what we speak of most, what we debate most, what we preach most, what controls us, what influences our likes or dislikes of people.

Am I wrong here?

Give me a substantive argument.

Why is there no mission statement on the UPCI.org website? You find only a liturgy on doctrine and standards - no mission.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

To PJ and SE - What did JS say that isn't true? Can either of you give any substance to an argument against what he stated, other than just a verbal put-down?

JS gave a statement from another, "if we lose standards, we lose our identity as an organization." And, "the mission statement . . . has been replaced with man-made standards and no television."

Again, other than just elementary put-downs, what can either of you give as an argument against that?

Have not our dress standards become our identity?

Our identity isn't being Oneness or preaching the doctrine of salvation - there's other organizations like that around.

What do most forums debate? Even UPC licensed ministers-only forums debate this and not all can agree.

Dress Standards.

It's become what we speak of most, what we debate most, what we preach most, what controls us, what influences our likes or dislikes of people.

Am I wrong here?

Give me a substantive argument.

Why is there no mission statement on the UPCI.org website? You find only a liturgy on doctrine and standards - no mission.

Great post! keep it up N-

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

To PJ and SE - What did JS say that isn't true? Can either of you give any substance to an argument against what he stated, other than just a verbal put-down?

JS gave a statement from another, "if we lose standards, we lose our identity as an organization." And, "the mission statement . . . has been replaced with man-made standards and no television."

Again, other than just elementary put-downs, what can either of you give as an argument against that?

Have not our dress standards become our identity?

Our identity isn't being Oneness or preaching the doctrine of salvation - there's other organizations like that around.

What do most forums debate? Even UPC licensed ministers-only forums debate this and not all can agree.

Dress Standards.

It's become what we speak of most, what we debate most, what we preach most, what controls us, what influences our likes or dislikes of people.

Am I wrong here?

Give me a substantive argument.

Why is there no mission statement on the UPCI.org website? You find only a liturgy on doctrine and standards - no mission.

I have enjoyed the show for the last couple of days.

I think you have made some valid points about some prominent posters. What is telling is that these men who have tvs in their homes (because of their wives of course LOL) want to position themselves as the guardians of all that is holy and pure in the world. They then point out that the UPC is going to H E double hockey sticks in a handbasket for thinking about advertising on television.

These guys don't even live what they want everyone else to adhere to. They just wanna harp about the "good ole days". They just enjoy the thrill of their supposed moral superiority.

I'm going back under the bridge now.

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I'm going back under the bridge now.