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Old 10-07-2008, 10:36 PM
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I couldn't care less what you vote - that's your priviledge to vote what you believe. I haven't ONE time said you were an idiot to vote for whomever.

You can't say that.

Honey.
That's the general sentiment among all of you Christian types. But when someone calls you on it...you back track with this you don't care who someone votes for business.

Let's just get real. The truth is...unless your a GOP adoring Republican you're not welcome in the fellowship of believers. I've accepted it and embraced it largely because of the way I've been repeatedly treated by Christians. Why can't you?
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What do you not know?
Oh, this has the potential to become a "who's on first" bit
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I think Obama won the debate tonight. I felt like the first Presidential and VP debate we're draws, but I felt differently tonight. Mainly for these three reasons:

1.) McCain set the wrong tone tonight to undecided voters. He came out guns blazing with his attacks on Obama as most of us expected. He didn't succeed, IMO, because they were the same attacks he's been making for weeks. There was nothing fresh on the Ayers matter or any ties to radicals that would concern undecideds. It was the same tax plan, Iraq, Iran attacks that clearly haven't worked to this point. Tired, old attacks for the sake of attacking turn voters off.

2.) IMO, Barack Obama time and again connected John McCain to GWB. Surprisingly, John McCain did very little to seperate himself from GWB. He didn't condemn Bush policies or admit bipartisan blame on the financial crisis. McCain MUST seperate himself from GWB when Obama ties him to him, and he didn't do that effectively tonight, IMO.

3.) McCain had the first major gaffe in the debates with his "that one" comment. In a campaign where racial issues are sensitive, that was a major mistake and unimaginable. John McCain pointed at an African American candidate for President and referred to him as "that one". That clip will be played relentlessly on cable news for the next 24 hours and is a problem that the McCain campaign didn't need. That was a major mistake on McCain's part.

I think the republicans will be using the "that one" comment in commercials tomorrow.

it may backfire but I suspect they are going to try to make hay with it.

Obama didnt fail tonight thus he won. but I think McCain didnt hurt himself either. but that doesnt do a blessed thing for him at the end of the day.
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What do you not know?
I'll have to read the transcript tomorrow.
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Pressing.....both are persons. Jeesh. I think Obama's just too intelligent for most to catch on to what he's saying. I know some nose picking hillbillies who think anyone who uses proper English is "fancy pants". lol
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I'll have to read the transcript tomorrow.
Told ya
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Told ya
I don't get it!! lol
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Oh, I remember another thing when they talked about what sacrifices they would want the American people to make. Obama was doing his hating the capitalist speech. Trying to get us to look down on some that live high on the hog as though they didn't earn it. Socialistic thinking - which comes through our education system. I'm tired of it.
That entire statement is ill informed. I think those who are barely able to pay their bills to keep their family in a home and have heat for the winter shouldn't be expected to sacrifice as much as a CEO who bails from a failing company with millions of dollars in his pocket. That's not anticapitalist....it's common sense. Of course...common sense isn't all that common among right wingers.
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I think the republicans will be using the "that one" comment in commercials tomorrow.

it may backfire but I suspect they are going to try to make hay with it.

Obama didnt fail tonight thus he won. but I think McCain didnt hurt himself either. but that doesnt do a blessed thing for him at the end of the day.
It's already reported about him using language from the Matrix - the one - and others from Malcom X. It will do him a disservice to bring it up.

I do not agree with you at all that Obama won. Not at all.
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Someone sure is Cranky tonight!!!
I wont mention any names though!!








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