Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?

[AbundantGrace]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

So stmatthew and Bro-Larry, neither of you, nor any in your family, wear glasses, or go to the dentist, or ever take Tylenol for a headache, right?

Really there's no need to even brush their teeth... The bad breath and cavities come from bacteria and if their faith is strong enough, God will just remove the bacteria.

Don't brush! Have faith!

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

So stmatthew and Bro-Larry, neither of you, nor any in your family, wear glasses, or go to the dentist, or ever take Tylenol for a headache, right?

What would that prove if we did? Would that change the word of God?
Paul said "So what if some don't believe? Does that make the word of God of none effect? "

That's what I mean by judging the word by our physical experiences.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Really there's no need to even brush their teeth... The bad breath and cavities come from bacteria and if their faith is strong enough, God will just remove the bacteria.

Don't brush! Have faith!

Yeah right! Instead of "hallelujah," they'd be shouting "Halitosis"!

I knew a guy once who thought deodorant was a sin. He also wandered why he couldn't win people to God. I kindly gave him $5.00 and told him to go buy some deodorant.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

What would that prove if we did? Would that change the word of God?
Paul said "So what if some don't believe? Does that make the word of God of none effect? "

That's what I mean by judging the word by our physical experiences.

Uhh huh...that's what I thought!

Why is it you guys that are ‘all faith or nothing’ always break down when it comes to issues like your teeth or your eyes?

I 100% believe in Jesus' healing power. He's healed me twice of very serious problems. One was a lung disease and the other was a heart problem. I also saw Him raise my dad up after the Paramedic pronounced he had no vital signs. None of these had any medical intervention. The lung disease was supposed to kill me when I was 7. God healed me the day they were scheduled to do exploratory surgery. My heart test said my heart was ruined at 16 and I would never be strong enough to even walk around a city block again. I took no medication and received no surgery, yet both times God delivered me completely!

But I have also come to realize that God has plans that don’t always add up to our's. What we miss is that God is not as interested in delivering us as He is in maturing us into Christlikeness. Paul gave us the key when he wrote:

Philippians 4:11-13
(11) Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
(12) I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
(13) I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

What we soon discover is that wholeness in Jesus is not a physical but spiritual realization. Such wholeness is what gives us peace that passes understanding. That is why a child of God can go through various situations, like those mentioned by Paul, and still be content.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Uhh huh...that's what I thought!

Why is it you guys that are ‘all faith or nothing’ always break down when it comes to issues like your teeth or your eyes?

I 100% believe in Jesus' healing power. He's healed me twice of very serious problems. One was a lung disease and the other was a heart problem. I also saw Him raise my dad up after the Paramedic pronounced he had no vital signs. None of these had any medical intervention. The lung disease was supposed to kill me when I was 7. God healed me the day they were scheduled to do exploratory surgery. My heart test said my heart was ruined at 16 and I would never be strong enough to even walk around a city block again. I took no medication and received no surgery, yet both times God delivered me completely!

But I have also come to realize that God has plans that don’t always add up to our's. What we miss is that God is not as interested in delivering us as He is in maturing us into Christlikeness. Paul gave us the key when he wrote:

Philippians 4:11-13
(11) Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
(12) I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
(13) I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

What we soon discover is that wholeness in Jesus is not a physical but spiritual realization. Such wholeness is what gives us peace that passes understanding. That is why a child of God can go through various situations, like those mentioned by Paul, and still be content.

Your posts are like a round of golf.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Your posts are like a round of golf.

A hole-in-one, eh?

What you said could be taken as either a compliment or a criticism… depending on the quality of the golfer….

[shag]

ROFL

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

So stmatthew and Bro-Larry, neither of you, nor any in your family, wear glasses, or go to the dentist, or ever take Tylenol for a headache, right?

What does the aging of one's eye's have to do with God's biblical promise to heal sickness and disease?? Is my teeth sick if I get a cleaning done.

Why not show me scripturally where Isa 53 is not for everyone, and that the stripes upon the back of Jesus is only for those that God desires to heal, and not all.

Why not show me that God promise that if one is sick, they should call for the Elders to anoint them and pray over them, and that they will be raised up, is NOT for everyone?

Why not show me where "they shall lay hands on the sick, and they SHALL RECOVER" is a selective promise, and not for all?

What you gentlemen are presenting is a sort of lottery system of healing, Where God spins the prayer wheel to see if JimBob comes up with the lucky healing number or not. With your proposal there is no way to know for sure if it is ever Gods will for someone to be healed, and thus negating faith from the prayer. If I am not 100% sure that according to scripture it is Gods will for you to be healed, pray tell how can I pray according to faith?? Faith is based upon the Word of God.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Why not show me scripturally where Isa 53 is not for everyone, and that the stripes upon the back of Jesus is only for those that God desires to heal, and not all.

(Isaiah 53:5 KJV) But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

This verse is speaking of the forgiveness of sin that makes men and women whole.

(Isaiah 53:5 AMP) But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our guilt and iniquities; the chastisement [needful to obtain] peace and well-being for us was upon Him, and with the stripes [that wounded] Him we are healed and made whole.

Such an idea is found in...

(Psalms 6:2) Have mercy upon me, O LORD; for I am weak: O LORD, heal me; for my bones are vexed.

(Psalms 41:4) I said, LORD, be merciful unto me: heal my soul; for I have sinned against thee.

Which is why Jesus said....

Matthew 9:11-13 KJV And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? (12) But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. (13) But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Such healing makes us complete....

(Colossians 2:10 KJV) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Really there's no need to even brush their teeth... The bad breath and cavities come from bacteria and if their faith is strong enough, God will just remove the bacteria.

Don't brush! Have faith!

Brother Bobbie that was funny!