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Old 12-26-2008, 01:20 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

Happy Boxing Day!

I've got no clue what this holiday is all about, but when you don't celebrate xmas, you've got to milk all the other holidays...

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Old 12-26-2008, 01:23 AM
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We have Chinese food in Maine, electricity (sometimes), and... and... well, I can't think of much else...

Although I live in MA, my assembly is in Maine, I like going up there for a slower pace of life, lol.

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Are you down in Boston?
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:27 AM
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Happy Boxing Day!

I've got no clue what this holiday is all about, but when you don't celebrate xmas, you've got to milk all the other holidays...

-Bro. Alex
Brother Alex, the Jewelry Tree group still have three kings day January 6th to celebrate. I thought it was pretty interesting how the accept the xmas, but disgard the Epiphany.

What legalism.

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Are you down in Boston?
I say "Boston" as a general location, but my folks like 40 minutes north of Boston. For my assembly's "general location", it's 15 minutes south of Portland, ME.

Are you in Florida? Where abouts? I have relatives in Tampa and Tallassee.

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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

We DID Not Put X-Mas Trees Up!

AND!!!

We're not having to take them DOWN either!!!!!!!
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We DID Not Put X-Mas Trees Up!

AND!!!

We're not having to take them DOWN either!!!!!!!
Isn't that wonderful, and you have no messy pine needles to have to clean up, and all those white mites getting into the carpet, and bedding.

You have a great year this upcoming year!

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I say "Boston" as a general location, but my folks like 40 minutes north of Boston. For my assembly's "general location", it's 15 minutes south of Portland, ME.

Are you in Florida? Where abouts? I have relatives in Tampa and Tallassee.

-Bro. Alex
Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Tampa is a bit of a distance.

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Isn't that wonderful, and you have no messy pine needles to have to clean up, and all those white mites getting into the carpet, and bedding.

You have a great year this upcoming year!

In Jesus name

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Evang Benincasa I suppose you'll be taking my coffee away from me next.
I don't know of any religion that used coffee in its rituals, and no Christian sect that adopted it to celebrate any event in the Bible. If coffee is a personal issue for you and you get the jitters, or you go to Starbucks, everyday and you are spending more money than you can afford. Then I would "suggest" (not command) you think and pray about abstaining from the brew.


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I've never worshipped a Christmas tree.
My questions to you are these, can you have xmas without the tree?
Isn't the tree a important part of your celebration concerning xmas?
In celebrating the mass isn't that a form of worship, and isn't the green tree jewelry hanger part of that celebration?

celˇeˇbrate (sl-brt)

v. celˇeˇbratˇed, celˇeˇbratˇing, celˇeˇbrates
v.tr.
1. To observe (a day or event) with ceremonies of respect, festivity, or rejoicing. See Synonyms at observe.
2. To perform (a religious ceremony): celebrate Mass.
3. To extol or praise: a sonnet that celebrates love.
4. To make widely known; display: "a determination on the author's part to celebrate . . . the offenses of another" William H. Pritchard.
v.intr.
1. To observe an occasion with appropriate ceremony or festivity.
2. To perform a religious ceremony.
3. To engage in festivities: went out and celebrated after the victory.

Worship

Verb
[-shipping, -shipped] or US [-shiping, -shiped]
1. to show profound religious devotion to (one's god), for example by praying
2. to have intense love and admiration for (a person)
Noun
1. religious adoration or devotion
2. formal expression of religious adoration, for example by praying
3. intense love or devotion to a person [Old English weorthscipe]
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I put one up because my family liked them.
If you didn't like them, wouldn't you be able to convince your family otherwise? Are your life decisions predicated on what others like or dislike?


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My former mail man didn't believe in Christmas but he never returned a Christmas card or box of candy I left for him
Your former mail man was a hypocrite. Every religion should be judged by its best. You presenting lousy examples just prove that there are people who talk the talk, and yet walk not the walk.

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Do you accept gifts at Christmas?
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If you don't believe in Christmas good for you but don't condemn us if we don't share your belief.
This is my perception: If you were in a home meeting with a group of people, and the door flew open and someone ran in screaming his car was stolen. would you feel you stole the car, though you never stole a car in your life?

However, if there was a man sitting in the house who had stolen a car in his life, then the man entering the room screaming his car was stolen, would probably cause that man to feel some kind of conviction.

So, in conclusion: this subject or any other should not bother you if you are confident and secure what you are doing is correct. If you feel something in the way of conviction then please don't shoot the messenger.

I deal with a great range of people who believe in many different things. Most of these people are my friends and friends of my family. These people do not feel convicted to believe what they believe, nor do they feel condemned when I share my views with them. I have people who hear and consider what is presented and have changed their ideas. Others have considered and made changes slowly, and yet others who have rejected those thoughts and have maintained their friendship with us. We still are friends and continue in discussions.

The messenger only speaks. The information presented is a problem only to those who have a problem with the message.

No one is your judge and jury. The One True Living God through His Word is the judge. What you want or don't want will inevitably weigh your outcome.



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Again I say, sometimes we become so holy we are hateful.
In Acts 13:8-12 there may of been many standing there who watched Paul rebuke Elymas, who could of thought that Paul was being hateful. In Acts 16:17 many may thought Paul, to be harsh when he rebuked the spirit of Python, out of the woman. In fact many did take Paul wrong when he cast out the devil. In Gal 2:11, the Apostle Paul rebukes an Elder Apostle, which must of seemed out of order to the others who were with them. Yet, we know that Peter commends Paul in 2Peter 3:15-16. When its right, its right, no one is forcing anyone to do anything in this thread. You are free to do as you very well please. My position is we shouldn't place Jesus' stamp on everything we allow.

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Old 12-26-2008, 09:54 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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Why the strong defense of past pagan customs?

Like all the decor really gives God honor or something.
First, I don't see anything "pagan" in it. It's evolved from it's pagan roots to such a degree that our current DECORATIONS don't reflect anything the original pagans who practiced paganism would recognize.

Second, what were pagan customs have become cultural customs as well. I'm European in ancestry, I value my cultural identity.

Thirdly, Christmas used to be a dark winter's holiday with riots, vandalism, and worse. Our taking Christmas and "Christianizing" and "marketizing" it (for lack of better terms) was one very significant cultural developments within the past 200 years in regards to holidays.

I don't believe that decorating one's kitchen with ducks honors God, but I'm not against it. I don't believe that decorating the house with harvest themes in the fall honors God, but I'm not against it. I also don't think festive holiday decorations for Christmas honors God, but I'm not against it either.

I performed an experiment this Christmas since I was knee deep in this discussion. Our family had just finished a delightful Christmas dinner, opened presents, and the kids were winding down. I then shot out a question, "Which of you would enjoy attending a church that believed what we're doing this Christmas was a sin?" Not a single person answered that they would enjoy such a church. Actually, the majority opinion was that such a church was cultic, like the Jehovah's Witnesses. lol We all agreed that most of these customs ORIGINATED from our pagan ancestors, but we're intelligent enough to know that these things have evolved into decorations and don't reflect the original pagan practice. In addition we're also intelligent enough to know that no one sitting around the living room was a pagan.

Some folk are just so heavenly minded.... they're no earthly good.
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