Voted On And Passed By General Board This Morning!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Theresa

things may be different in your part of the world and TV may do some good for y'all....more power to you..

but from my perspective, in this area - it would be a huge waste of time and money, honestly.

And to read all the comments and horror stories people post on here about their UPC church, or their familys UPC church - they have issues they need to resolve before they go inviting the masses in....

elucidate.....please

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Kutless

I agree with you here. But why wasn't there a mass exodus last year?

There was no vote last year.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by Kutless

think maybe the issues would resolve if they had a couple seeking for the HG in the alter. Those Horror stories sound like ones coming from dry churches to me.

yeah, of course they are...

but even in "non dry" churches, how many people do you see in the alter seeking the holy ghost? Not very many, not lately....

And I personally dont think ads on tv will bring folks in....thats just MY feeling on the matter....

but I'm looking at it from a church that hasnt had any significant church growth other than folks moving into the area that were looking for a UPC church....no one invites anyone to church, no one teaches bible studies.....

Our pastor has brought in teachers and ministers to motivate folks to witness or invite folks to church - but nothing happens. Folks are just so busy with life, they barely make it to church themselves...you know?

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

There was no vote last year.

PP please.

Your portraying one of my favorite characters in some of your posts. Debbie Downer. wa wa wa.

Let me ask you this way. Do you agree with NLYP that there will be a 'Happily Ever After Ending' or will this split the org in two?

[Felicity]

What I worry about with the TV thing is that I don't think it's just about TV although I think some think it is. It's about more than that and that's what's a little troubling to me.

*from one who's no longer part but my opinion anyway*

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Kutless

PP please.

Your portraying one of my favorite characters in some of your posts. Debbie Downer. wa wa wa.

Let me ask you this way. Do you agree with NLYP that there will be a 'Happily Ever After Ending' or will this split the org in two?

Debbie Downer?!!!

That happens to be my name -- minus the downer! Be careful how you use it!!!

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Kutless

PP please.

Your portraying one of my favorite characters in some of your posts. Debbie Downer. wa wa wa.

Let me ask you this way. Do you agree with NLYP that there will be a 'Happily Ever After Ending' or will this split the org in two?

HAHA!!!

The organization will survive, one way or another. We're just gonna have a big black eye.

That makes me sad. Sorry.

Originally Posted by NLYP

I really do believe that will be the case....We may lose a few....but we will gain many!

Any stats or examples to back up your opinion?

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Theresa

yeah, of course they are...

but even in "non dry" churches, how many people do you see in the alter seeking the holy ghost? Not very many, not lately....

And I personally dont think ads on tv will bring folks in....thats just MY feeling on the matter....

but I'm looking at it from a church that hasnt had any significant church growth other than folks moving into the area that were looking for a UPC church....no one invites anyone to church, no one teaches bible studies.....

Our pastor has brought in teachers and ministers to motivate folks to witness or invite folks to church - but nothing happens. Folks are just so busy with life, they barely make it to church themselves...you know?

Surely this does not include you! Maybe your the spark that will ignite the fire.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Surely this does not include you! Maybe your the spark that will ignite the fire.

and advertising on tv will solve this, how?