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Old 03-03-2007, 03:45 PM
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So, because of these few things you are going to a church that does not worship who you worship or believe what you believe... Not that it matters (except the spirit of delusion there) because you can't understand 90% of what's being spoken anyway???
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The only one I can see being a serious issue is the laymen micromanaging... But wouldn't a talk with the pastor put a halt to that?
I don't care enough anymore to have it dealt with.

Really, I think shorts for men should be banned. Men look ridiculous in shorts -- especially long ones. Of course that's a matter of personal preference... not conviction. Why would you wear that to church anyway?
And it is personal preference that is often times considered heaven/hell issues.

As far as jewelry and spiked hair go, you can always not wear any to church and not spike your hair when you go.
Not an option here. You MUST obey ALL the rules at all times.!!

I assume ear gages are jewelry??? Please don't tell me it's those disgusting things that these kids are putting in their ears to make it look like a big hole... Those are nasty!
yeah, those hole things.. haha. Not too big though. Looks good with the spikes and facial hair... I'll use the "cultural" argument."

Facial hair... I can understand that being an issue... but if you think it's more important...
It's all an issue. I'm not going to live up to someone else's expectations of me. I don't care for their preferences.

Is this church you claim has the micromanaging the ONLY apostolic church near your home??? I mean.... Isn't there something else within a reasonable distance???
Nothing else available at the moment. The P.A.W.'s in the area are dead. The UPC and Apo's are still too strict.
well..
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:08 PM
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Berkley please don't take this wrong but are some real inward problems here and NOT outward standards. I suggest you go back and start all over.
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:10 PM
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Berkley please don't take this wrong but are some real inward problems here and NOT outward standards. I suggest you go back and start all over.
Thanks for the concern, Elder. I appreciate that.
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Thanks for the concern, Elder. I appreciate that.
I promise I am going to move you to the top of my prayer lists.
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I promise I am going to move you to the top of my prayer lists.
I HOPE that just barely puts him above me in that list
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I promise I am going to move you to the top of my prayer lists.
thank you... I am not insulted in the least.
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I HOPE that just barely puts him above me in that list
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:31 PM
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well..
Well, Berk.... If you really didn't care at all you wouldn't start threads complaining about it.

Truth is you just wish you could go and be yourself, letting God deal with you Himself in His own way, without feeling like you're being judged based on your appearance every time you walk in the door.

I completely understand that...Have been there and gotten some nasty looks and snubs myself in the past, though no one had been bold enough to try to tell me how to live my life...

Well, at least not in person. There's always someone on the internet who seems to think they have all the answers for everyone though... as you well know.

I'm not invalidating your issues nor would I. I believe they are relevant. I would not be able to be part of a church that tried to control me either.

However, I certainly wouldn't consider a presbyterian church an option. They don't even have the Holy Ghost! Isn't there at least a nice spirit-filled assembly in the area?

This is where I'm at....

Though I don't agree with much of the standards I've had to ask my own self what is more relevant in God's plan for my life... Is my own pride and personal identity more relevant? Or are lost souls?

Last time I checked I was bought with a price -- that price being the blood of Jesus... I'm His ambassador -- not my own. An ambassador puts his own will on the line for the sake of his country.

God has put me in a place where the local church my family feels we can be fed and enjoy liberty in serving God is a standard-holding church. That the gifts that God has put in us can be fostered and used means everything to me.... Holding to standards is a small price to pay for that.

And, no... No one ever sat me down to try to convince me of this viewpoint. Anyone would have difficulty in trying to do that (just ask my husband). It came out through my own relationship with God.

I hope you get to a place where you can experience what you need from God. It's tough to walk in the desert. Too bad we can't get you to TN so you can be a part of the church Sherri and her husband pastor... I bet you'd like it there.
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:34 PM
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However, I certainly wouldn't consider a presbyterian church an option. They don't even have the Holy Ghost!
*gasp* You have not been paying attention to what I've been saying.
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Hey Berk ... you are on my prayer list ... even if I'm more Apostolic than you are.
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