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03-20-2017, 04:23 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
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LOL, are there any royalties involved Brother Blume?
God fills people with the Holy Ghost in the Assemblies of God Church; because he is good, not because they are right. It is great that some churches are experiencing revivals. If people are satisfied with status quo then that is their right. I believe in the prayer warriors of the Apostolic movement; ergo, I am calling them up to pray. Nothing hidden in that statement.
Disclaimer: I did not say that if anyone who is a dispensationalists are a heretic and going to Hell.
Comfort begets complacency. Calling beckons Hearers. Challenges makes Overcomers.
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PFC Palm Bay is a Pentecostal Church (UPC), not an AoG church. The few churches I know experiencing a move of God on a regular basis are also Pentecostal churches.
I don't believe God is concerned with our eschatology or that many believe Israel becoming a nation was a God-thing. Nor is God angry that many, including my father, believed Israel is God's chosen or that America is the eagle which will swoop in to save their bacon. (EB ... BACON!) At least, not as much as some are. It's down there with the length of sleeves, colored shirts, and whether or not you can wear a tie tac or wedding ring.
There are more important issues and actual sins which have infected our churches.
""Disclaimer: I did not say that if anyone who is a dispensationalists are a heretic and going to Hell.""
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Time for Apostolicism to WAKE UP! We must eradicate Christian Zionism out of the ranks of the faithful. You must realize that we are being terraformed by the Luciferian Elite. Apostolic Ministers need to stop promoting the modern Israel Hegelian Dialectic through a Scofield prism. You have allowed sin and the enemy in our camp.
Joshua 7: 25 And Joshua said, why hast thou troubled us? The LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones.
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We must pray that our Heavenly Father clean out our Apostolic Churches from this abomination and pray for peace.
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Can a person who has sin and abomination go to Heaven?
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03-20-2017, 04:31 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
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I appreciate you pointing out my grammatical mistake, must come from my Virginian vernacular. Some here would say that is nitpicking. Did you read my original post?
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CO - one of my human weakness is a distaste and dislike for being "talked down to".
You hit this button with many of your posts.
Therefore, my sarcasm meter when up when I say that the "great watchman of the wall", had used an incorrect word.
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03-20-2017, 04:33 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
And yes, I read your original post.
Can you answer the questions I posed?
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03-20-2017, 05:40 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
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Therefore, my sarcasm meter when up when I say that the "great watchman of the wall", had used an incorrect word.
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Please show me a post where I referred to myself as the "great watchman of the wall"?
I knew in my spirit that you took offence using this term. That you felt I was self-aggrandizing. Your derogatory comment; the great watchman of the wall, proved my instinct right. Funny how things pan out.
Why did Solomon mention conies in Proverbs? The male warns his family with a loud screech when he perceives danger. His family flees to their homes in the rock. I was trying to convey that we all should watch out for each other. That I am nothing special, because nature itself teaches humanity this lesson. And you perceive that as talking down to you?
Wisdom knoweth her children.
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03-20-2017, 06:29 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
Oy Vey! Enough with the kvetching already! You'd almost think it was another shoah!
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03-20-2017, 08:20 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
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PFC Palm Bay is a Pentecostal Church (UPC), not an AoG church. The few churches I know experiencing a move of God on a regular basis are also Pentecostal churches.
I don't believe God is concerned with our eschatology or that many believe Israel becoming a nation was a God-thing. Nor is God angry that many, including my father, believed Israel is God's chosen or that America is the eagle which will swoop in to save their bacon. (EB ... BACON!) At least, not as much as some are. It's down there with the length of sleeves, colored shirts, and whether or not you can wear a tie tac or wedding ring.
There are more important issues and actual sins which have infected our churches.
""Disclaimer: I did not say that if anyone who is a dispensationalists are a heretic and going to Hell.""
Can a person who has sin and abomination go to Heaven?
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PFC Palm Bay is a Pentecostal Church (UPC), not an AOG church.
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Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
My point Is that God is Good. He does not just bless UPC or any other church because they are right or wrong. He Blesses because he is a Good Father.
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Can a person who has sin and abomination go to Heaven?
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Only God can make that determination, I cannot.
MT TURN!
should ministers teach error?
UPC Search for Truth #2 Home Bible Study Course; Teacher’s Manual, Page 281.
Therefore, the “last generation” began in 1948. But how long is a Jewish generation? When will it mature? According to Jewish genealogy ( Matthew 1:17), the Bible ( Psalm 95:10), and the Dead Sea scrolls (under “Religious Belief and Practices”), a generation is forty years.
According to this the catching away of the saints has taken place in 1988. Hopefully they have corrected this in their newer versions.
Just be thankful that our Heavenly Father is Good. Sticking your head in the ground is unprofitable for truth.
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03-20-2017, 08:43 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
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Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
My point Is that God is Good. He does not just bless UPC or any other church because they are right or wrong. He Blesses because he is a Good Father.
Only God can make that determination, I cannot.
MT TURN!
should ministers teach error?
UPC Search for Truth #2 Home Bible Study Course; Teacher’s Manual, Page 281.
Therefore, the “last generation” began in 1948. But how long is a Jewish generation? When will it mature? According to Jewish genealogy ( Matthew 1:17), the Bible ( Psalm 95:10), and the Dead Sea scrolls (under “Religious Belief and Practices”), a generation is forty years.
According to this the catching away of the saints has taken place in 1988. Hopefully they have corrected this in their newer versions.
Just be thankful that our Heavenly Father is Good. Sticking your head in the ground is unprofitable for truth.
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But but but our sacred cows!!!!!
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03-20-2017, 09:05 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
Four years ago, while teaching Search for Truth 2, I noticed that, according to the study, that the Lord should return in 1988. Of course, 1988 has passed and no rapture! So what is one to do? In my case, I decided to redefine a "generation" as 70 years instead of 40. I even wrote the number 70 in the margin of p. 281 of my copy of the Search for Truth 2 teachers manual. So with the assumption of 70 years, I came up with the year 2018 (1948 + 70) as the year the Lord would return. Now something tells me that the year 2018 will come and go........and there will not be a rapture or any other kind of return of the Lord. I'm not being a scoffer or skeptic I just realize that my view of the "end times" was completely in error - for over 30 years.....
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03-20-2017, 09:11 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
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Four years ago, while teaching Search for Truth 2, I noticed that, according to the study, that the Lord should return in 1988. Of course, 1988 has passed and no rapture! So what is one to do? In my case, I decided to redefine a "generation" as 70 years instead of 40. I even wrote the number 70 in the margin of p. 281 of my copy of the Search for Truth 2 teachers manual. So with the assumption of 70 years, I came up with the year 2018 (1948 + 70) as the year the Lord would return. Now something tells me that the year 2018 will come and go........and there will not be a rapture or any other kind of return of the Lord. I'm not being a scoffer or skeptic I just realize that my view of the "end times" was completely in error - for over 30 years.....
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Prepare to be an outcast in the UPC.
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03-20-2017, 09:35 PM
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Re: Removing Zionism From the Chruch
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http://www.jta.org/2010/10/18/news-o...-to-serve-jews
"JERUSALEM (JTA) — Israeli Sephardic leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef in his weekly Saturday night sermon said that non-Jews exist to serve Jews.
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” he said during a public discussion of what kind of work non-Jews are allowed to perform on Shabbat."
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The Sephardi Rabbi said more than that...
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
“In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.
“This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”
“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.”
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