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02-20-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
The early church PRAYED, believing that God's choice for the replacement of Judas would be determined by a vote.
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And with all the politicing that goes on, how can one be certain today?
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02-20-2007, 05:22 PM
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It's so nice not to have a horse in this race......but I do know who the jockeys are!!!! 
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02-20-2007, 05:38 PM
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The National Enquirer Thread?
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02-21-2007, 08:43 AM
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Question. By definition, are there only 2 mega churches in the UPC? I know about POA and CLC. Does any other church have a congregation over 2,000? What about other "oneness" orgs? I do know that there are a lot of churches who have the "mega" style...contemporary, lights, media, and such, but I'm talking about membership over 2,000. Thanks!
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02-21-2007, 09:47 AM
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Mega upc church in Turmoil
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
The early church PRAYED, believing that God's choice for the replacement of Judas would be determined by a vote.
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Could it be that God lets (allows, permits) man/men to choose or
make choices for a period of time, until HIS time (fulness) when God
will CHOOSE and have HIS Way. God gave Moses the law, for trans-
gression of sin, UNTIL, the Seed (Jesus Christ) could come or get here.
Could it be God allowed Matthias, (by man's vote) until HE had CALLED
Saul of Tarsus. Could He allow some men to fill pulpits (by vote) UNTIL
the one HE has CALLED is ready! HE IS GOD! It's HIS Kingdom!!!
Blessings,
Falla39
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02-21-2007, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman
Question. By definition, are there only 2 mega churches in the UPC? I know about POA and CLC. Does any other church have a congregation over 2,000? What about other "oneness" orgs? I do know that there are a lot of churches who have the "mega" style...contemporary, lights, media, and such, but I'm talking about membership over 2,000. Thanks!
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Membership? Does anybody actually have this today?
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02-21-2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ReformedDave
Membership? Does anybody actually have this today?
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I'm not using a catch word, just talking about number of people attending the church that claim that it is their church. We have many who have just started with us at our church and I mean brand spanking new and they would tell you that CCC is their church. Some have been baptized, some haven't, some have the Holy Ghost as evident by speaking in tongues others do not, yet they would all consider themself a member, I know this because some have said to me and others in conversation, "my church"!!!!!!
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02-21-2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman
I'm not using a catch word, just talking about number of people attending the church that claim that it is their church. We have many who have just started with us at our church and I mean brand spanking new and they would tell you that CCC is their church. Some have been baptized, some haven't, some have the Holy Ghost as evident by speaking in tongues others do not, yet they would all consider themself a member, I know this because some have said to me and others in conversation, "my church"!!!!!!
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My point is that so many have eliminated formal church membership.
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02-21-2007, 03:21 PM
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Beautiful are the feet......
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Who determines he's the man? Obviously, most fathers would be bias in declaring him the man.
It quite evident that your personal attachment would play a mojor role in it verses him just being plain old called to the position.
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If you're a pastor and you feel that your son is "THE MAN" to take over the church, the church body will know he's "THE MAN" too!
If the church body feels differently, then obviously he is NOT the man!!!!
Pro 18:16 A man's gift maketh room for him, and bringeth him before great men.
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02-21-2007, 05:35 PM
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Blessed!
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Originally Posted by Fonix
I cannot imagine a serious situation in my own church being publically discussed. I have to argree that things of this nature are pure gossip and Im not saying it doesnt draw a crowd but I am saying I think we should weigh our motives for discussing a sad situation regardless of what church it is
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Do you know the church?
Anyway...what people have been talking about for the majority of this thread is the ISSUE at hand....is it right for a pastor to unilaterally change the by-laws to state he, not the church body, choose the next pastor? This is the issue at hand.
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