Do You Believe in Women Pastors?

[Socialite]

Enjoying the thread. Thanks, MB, for candidly expressing where you were on the topic.

We have a thread about women preachers lopsided, and in favor of those who support women preaching. On this thread, the majority of posters oppose women pastors (a few undecided folks). Interesting to me.

My intuition is probably closer to MB's. But I haven't fleshed it all out, and try to find biblical support for those positions --- or try to support the Bible by shaping my opinions off of that

Anyone else?

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Not my preference, for sure. Not 100% opposed, but it would have to be special circumstances and I'd have to be personally convinced that God was in it before I would submit myself to a woman pastor. I think God has equipped men to be leaders in the church and women to be leaders in the home. Sometimes there's some crossover, but I believe that's the ideal reflected in scripture.

Pastoring is an authoritative position, and requires some stereotypical masculine traits to be successful. In addition to that, pastoring comes with requirements of your schedule and lifestyle that might detract from a woman fulfilling her obligations to her husband, children and home. Far better for a woman to use excess time for good works in the community, IMO.

Other than that, I just don't like a woman boss. It rubs me the wrong way. I can't imagine men responding much better in most cases. To that end, it's impractical.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Hey Tim, do you believe in women preachers/teachers, although not women pastors?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Enjoying the thread. Thanks, MB, for candidly expressing where you were on the topic.

We have a thread about women preachers lopsided, and in favor of those who support women preaching. On this thread, the majority of posters oppose women pastors (a few undecided folks). Interesting to me.

My intuition is probably closer to MB's. But I haven't fleshed it all out, and try to find biblical support for those positions --- or try to support the Bible by shaping my opinions off of that

Anyone else?

I really think it comes down to personal preference and from whom we receive leadership. It's really difficult to separate "women preachers" from "women pastors" and make one ok and not the other, in my opinion.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Not my preference, for sure. Not 100% opposed, but it would have to be special circumstances and I'd have to be personally convinced that God was in it before I would submit myself to a woman pastor. I think God has equipped men to be leaders in the church and women to be leaders in the home. Sometimes there's some crossover, but I believe that's the ideal reflected in scripture.

Pastoring is an authoritative position, and requires some stereotypical masculine traits to be successful. In addition to that, pastoring comes with requirements of your schedule and lifestyle that might detract from a woman fulfilling her obligations to her husband, children and home. Far better for a woman to use excess time for good works in the community, IMO.

Other than that, I just don't like a woman boss. It rubs me the wrong way. I can't imagine men responding much better in most cases. To that end, it's impractical.

1 Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

It seems men actually get the position of ruling and leading the home.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I really think it comes down to personal preference and from whom we receive leadership. It's really difficult to separate "women preachers" from "women pastors" and make one ok and not the other, in my opinion.

Definitely.

So then, I always like to dig at what is going on in this "personal preference." Usually, it's connected to something we believe or have believed.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Definitely.

So then, I always like to dig at what is going on in this "personal preference." Usually, it's connected to something we believe or have believed.

Sometimes it's difficult to separate what we believe, from what we have been taught.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Sometimes it's difficult to separate what we believe, from what we have been taught.

Very true. So I guess my post is getting "all up in our grill."

I FEEL more comfortable with male-led eldership.

It'd be interesting to get a more true Complimentarian on here to explain. Many of them, (ie John Piper) are okay with women teaching, but not as serving as pastoring elders. Perhaps they can help distinguish.


(p.s. Read a study a while back that said female-led congregations attracted more than 70% females, so this shows you modern man's comfort with women taking the spiritual lead as well)

[rdp]

Originally Posted by BroGary

This set of Bible studies written by an apostolic brother shows support for both women preachers and pastors:

http://www.1lord1faith.org/wm/Woman/Woman.htm

You can't be serious? The author does a poor job, citing the typical arguments used to advance "women preacher's," & hardly even touching I Tim. 2:11-15! "Fallacy of Neglected Aspect" alert!

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by rdp

You can't be serious? The author does a poor job, citing the typical arguments used to advance "women preacher's," & hardly even touching I Tim. 2:11-15! "Fallacy of Neglected Aspect" alert!

Welcome to this thread, RDP

You still crack me up with your glossary ammo on logical fallacies