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Originally Posted by gloryseeker
I was thinking about all the posts about baptism...you know whether it is important what the preacher says prior to baptism.
Let me challenge you to back away from your theology for a moment and think about a couple of points about the Body of Christ in general.
Two men - one is "trinity" and one is "oneness" both tell stories of how they had visitation from Jesus and that He spoke with them about their ministries about the times they lived in and so forth.
The men: Kenneth Hagin (the Senior one) and Chester Hensley
I have heard accounts of both men (Hensley in person and Hagin through books). Both claiming to have had several encounters with Jesus, yet neither of these men stated that Jesus Himself told them, "Make sure and get 'the others' rebaptized the way you understand it."
As the one guy posted on this forum (don't remember who it was) proclaimed in bold, colored, all cap letters "if you are not baptized in the Name of Jesus you are going to hell." Well, if this is true there are a lot of trinitarian people out there who truly love the Lord. I would think that if "the way" of baptism was so important that Jesus would have mentioned it to one of these guys.
Then we could look at a multitude of people who are considered to be "God's Generals." These would be people like Alexander Dowie, Maria Woodworth Etter, Seymour, Kuhlman, Wigglesworth, Branum, Sumrall, and others. Of those who operated in an absolute power and demonstration of God they were split with about 30% being oneness and about 70% being trinity.
People have die hard opinions of baptism, but my question is....."does God?"
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I should point something out, not with intention to offend, but to bring out an important issue.
Those men claimed to have personal visitations with Christ?! In stating such, they have condemned themselves.
Matthew 24:23-27
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there;
believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and
false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth:
behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Christ commands me to not believe these men who claim they saw him. Christ says the next time he returns, he will shine from east to west (everyone will see him). If these men truly claimed this, either Christ is a liar, or these men are liars or at best deluded. I'll take Christ's word for it.
Look here. I wouldn't even believe a sweet little old granny who claimed to see Jesus by her bedside.
Christ through scripture commands us to not believe such claims of private appearances..