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Old 10-07-2008, 10:30 PM
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Re: 2nd Presidential Debate

Slowfade, I have 3 recommendations for you tonight:


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Old 10-07-2008, 10:31 PM
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according to FOX, McCain won by 86%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW! that is really something!
That would be my line of thinking. I thought he did a wonderful job tonight! I was very proud of his performance. They are letting their ads and personal road campaigns do the really dirty work.

Tonight they stayed focused on what the townhall people needed to hear to get a consensus on who they thought was a better commander. McCain won that, IMO.
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according to FOX, McCain won by 86%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW! that is really something!
Mark, now I'm confused. CNN has Obama winning at 82%...I wonder what the margin for error is on these things TIC
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obama's tax plan is first a lie, and second socalism at its worst and it will be disaster to the economy.

Barak Obamas tax hike on businessess is a direct tax on the middle class and the poor.

BUSINESSES DONT PAY TAXES.

Obama's line about the hatchet is about as accurate as you are in your right mind tonight.
Blah, blah, blah. Obama's plan will not raise taxes on me and it will moderate the costs my family face. McCain will continue the corporate welfare policies of the Bush administration and my family will see continued skyrocketing costs until we can't afford a home or health insurance. It tickled me pink when McCain brought up buying insurance from let's say a company in Arizona! If people only knew the legislation being ironed out as we speak...Obama touched on it, they're going to try to turn Arizona into what Delaware is for the credit card industry....and it's you and I who will get shafted.
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:32 PM
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I think Obama won the debate tonight. I felt like the first Presidential and VP debate we're draws, but I felt differently tonight. Mainly for these three reasons:

1.) McCain set the wrong tone tonight to undecided voters. He came out guns blazing with his attacks on Obama as most of us expected. He didn't succeed, IMO, because they were the same attacks he's been making for weeks. There was nothing fresh on the Ayers matter or any ties to radicals that would concern undecideds. It was the same tax plan, Iraq, Iran attacks that clearly haven't worked to this point. Tired, old attacks for the sake of attacking turn voters off.

2.) IMO, Barack Obama time and again connected John McCain to GWB. Surprisingly, John McCain did very little to seperate himself from GWB. He didn't condemn Bush policies or admit bipartisan blame on the financial crisis. McCain MUST seperate himself from GWB when Obama ties him to him, and he didn't do that effectively tonight, IMO.

3.) McCain had the first major gaffe in the debates with his "that one" comment. In a campaign where racial issues are sensitive, that was a major mistake and unimaginable. John McCain pointed at an African American candidate for President and referred to him as "that one". That clip will be played relentlessly on cable news for the next 24 hours and is a problem that the McCain campaign didn't need. That was a major mistake on McCain's part.
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Great analogy!

Also, BO didn't answer the last question. So does that mean there's nothing he doesn't know?
I missed that part. I think I had answered the phone. What was the question?
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That was a blatantly stupid remark. You will be the first person that I have ever put on Ignore.
Horay!
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I missed that part. I think I had answered the phone. What was the question?
What do you not know?
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:34 PM
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Obama is a suit. McCain is a person. He always has been. At the end he said, words to effect, "I hope that you will give me another chance to serve my country."

I'm looking forward to it.
Pressing.....both are persons. Jeesh. I think Obama's just too intelligent for most to catch on to what he's saying. I know some nose picking hillbillies who think anyone who uses proper English is "fancy pants". lol
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I think Obama won the debate tonight. I felt like the first Presidential and VP debate we're draws, but I felt differently tonight. Mainly for these three reasons:

1.) McCain set the wrong tone tonight to undecided voters. He came out guns blazing with his attacks on Obama as most of us expected. He didn't succeed, IMO, because they were the same attacks he's been making for weeks. There was nothing fresh on the Ayers matter or any ties to radicals that would concern undecideds. It was the same tax plan, Iraq, Iran attacks that clearly haven't worked to this point. Tired, old attacks for the sake of attacking turn voters off.

I disagree. I believe he hit him on the very necessary parts that needed the hitting. Obama put in his barbs himself. So it certainly was not one sided.

2.) IMO, Barack Obama time and again connected John McCain to GWB. Surprisingly, John McCain did very little to seperate himself from GWB. He didn't condemn Bush policies or admit bipartisan blame on the financial crisis. McCain MUST seperate himself from GWB when Obama ties him to it, and he didn't do that effectively tonight, IMO.
He did distance himself right off the bat. He said something about this is my policy. Not Obama's or Bushes. He didn't have to hit that point again. He made it very clear at the beginning.

3.) McCain had the first major gaffe in the debates with his "that one" comment. In a campaign where racial issues are sensitive, that was a major mistake and unimaginable. John McCain pointed at an African American candidate for President and referred to him as "that one". That clip will be played relentlessly on cable news for the next 24 hours and is a problem that the McCain campaign didn't need. That was a major mistake on McCain's part.
I didn't take it that way, but I can see your point. We will see if they do stretch it. He could have been making reference to Obama's Matrix dialogue he uses on himself. It more than likely was not a racial comment at all.
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