Rare Sister Charlotte Testimony - tortured nun

[timlan2057]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Besides her testimony can the allegations be substantiated?

Well, for perspective, here's an interesting link ...

http://web.archive.org/web/200401090...ottewells.html

[sandie]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Well, for perspective, here's an interesting link ...

http://web.archive.org/web/200401090...ottewells.html

I don't see where this person was able to refute anything.
He's a Catholic with a pro-catholic bias.

What he is saying is this woman had to have been an epic liar.

[Falla39]

A few years ago, I found a small, very old booklet where a lady gives her testimony of
being in a cloistered convent. It sounded much like Sis. Charlotte's testimony.
Bro. Blume is correct. Sis. Charlotte did not want to tell where her testimony happened
and didn't want her book published until after her death.

When Sis. Charlotte came to give her testimony, she would make a telephone call to let
someone know she had arrived. Before she would leave, she also called to let someone
know she was leaving our city. She checked in with someone regularly. Didn't know if it
was headquarters, etc. All kings of rumors got started about what had happened to her,
that she had disappeared after boarding an airplane, etc. We were told that she was in
a nursing facility in California and was safe, so we knew it wasn't true. I believe she died
in that senior care facility.
While giving her testimony she would tell of an experience and then she would say,
"Don't God hate your nasty pride"!

Falla39

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Well, for perspective, here's an interesting link ...

http://web.archive.org/web/200401090...ottewells.html

The accusations of Charlotte's story in that website are offkey. She is alleged to have used CHARLOTTE WELLS as a pseudonym, when she never did that at all. Someone started that when they made a website years ago since they did not know her actual name. I actually spoke with the person who started that name, since I saw the website and was correcting the person. They said they picked one out of the air since they did not know her name.

She hid her actual name because her family was deathly opposed to her leaving the catholic church. She did not want her family associated with her testimony.

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by sandie

I don't see where this person was able to refute anything.
He's a Catholic with a pro-catholic bias.

What he is saying is this woman had to have been an epic liar.

http://web.archive.org/web/200401090...ottewells.html

I guess there is no proof of the numerous cases of abuse to young men
by catholic priests either! Just sayin...!

[Falla39]

If anyone met Sis. Charlotte and had any spiritual discernment at all, they would never perceive her to be a "fake".
I remember hearing that there was a book out about Sis. Charlotte's testimony. Later heard that someone had gotten hold of Sis. Charlotte's testimony tapes and had taken out the part about Jesus Name baptism, oneness teaching, etc. and had used the story to make money from the sale of the books. I knew Sis. Charlotte had written or was writing a book about her testimony, but she told us it would not be made available until AFTER her death. Later the book came out through the Pent. Publ. House. I knew this was the legitimate book. She and Sis. Nila were UPC!

Falla39

[timlan2057]

Originally Posted by sandie

I don't see where this person was able to refute anything.
He's a Catholic with a pro-catholic bias.

What he is saying is this woman had to have been an epic liar.

Oh, so he's a Catholic so that AUTOMATICALLY makes everything he says invalid?

Why not deal with his material point-by-point?

Interesting reasoning.

Frankly, just one minor point of his I thought interesting, she supposedly went "anonymous" because she was afraid those big, bad Catholics would get her.

But yet, she went public with her "testimony" with open meetings like Billy Graham, in spirit if not in number.

All an assassin would have to do is show up at one of her meetings.

If the Catholic church was as menacing as the Mafia they are portrayed as, with their unlimited funds, the FBI's witness protection program couldn't have helped that woman.

Everything I've read about this "Sister Charlotte" leads me to conclude she was a brass-plated fraud.

[timlan2057]

Originally Posted by Falla39

http://web.archive.org/web/200401090...ottewells.html

I guess there is no proof of the numerous cases of abuse to young men
by catholic priests either! Just sayin...!

No. There is.

That's not the point.

In those cases, we have names, places and facts--just like we have for every fundamentalist minister that can't keep his pants zipped up--which I daresay that, per capita, is as much or more moral failings as abusive catholic priests.

In the good "Sister's" case, we have nothing but assertion and claims that this happened in a convent, the location of which was secret, of course.

Let's see some hard evidence as the proof of this story.

Otherwise, I put it in the same category as Jonathan Urshan's forerunner of the anti-christ who told him some 50 years ago he was about to reveal himself to the world in another year or so.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Oh, so he's a Catholic so that AUTOMATICALLY makes everything he says invalid?

Why not deal with his material point-by-point?

Interesting reasoning.

Frankly, just one minor point of his I thought interesting, she supposedly went "anonymous" because she was afraid those big, bad Catholics would get her.

But yet, she went public with her "testimony" with open meetings like Billy Graham, in spirit if not in number.

All an assassin would have to do is show up at one of her meetings.

If the Catholic church was as menacing as the Mafia they are portrayed as, with their unlimited funds, the FBI's witness protection program couldn't have helped that woman.[/u]

Everything I've read about this "Sister Charlotte" leads me to conclude she was a brass-plated fraud.

Whew. You should read her book. She tells of harrowing ordeals with mobs and threats. She and Sis Nilah had to run for their lives after many meetings, Mobs came down the road with clubs and bats. Nilah told me personally that one meeting saw the host pastor come and grab her and Charlotte, and say, "Come with me." He pulled them away out of the tent meeting and put them in his car, and told them to duck down. A mob of people were coming. This was in Antigonish, Nova Scotia. They took off for their lives!

They stayed one night at Bro. Haney's dad's house, when he was pastor. And the house was out in the country down a long driveway. Bro Haney Sr. came upstairs to get his shotgun. He said there was a strange car showed up at the dirveway, but it ended up leaving.

They had open meetings and had the police out to ensure Charlotte's safety.

You need to get more facts, bro., before you speak about Charlotte's alleged fraud. It was the Lord who kept them safe.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

No. There is.

That's not the point.

In those cases, we have names, places and facts--just like we have for every fundamentalist minister that can't keep his pants zipped up--which I daresay that, per capita, is as much or more moral failings as abusive catholic priests.

In the good "Sister's" case, we have nothing but assertion and claims that this happened in a convent, the location of which was secret, of course.

Let's see some hard evidence as the proof of this story.

Otherwise, I put it in the same category as Jonathan Urshan's forerunner of the anti-christ who told him some 50 years ago he was about to reveal himself to the world in another year or so.

It was Quebec, Canada.