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Old 10-14-2010, 07:34 PM
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Evolutionists say this geneology is false. what say you????


23And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

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The first thing we see in a false religion is they claim another religion is not true. Tell us what the true facts are.

What is the jfrog geneology including all names.
Matthew says that this genealogy is "false" according to your literalism, as does the writer of 1 Chronicles since they all present different genealogies for the same people.

You still have not answered the question:

How could Zerubbabel be descended along the patrilineal lines of both of David's sons, Solomon and Nathan?

Somebody work that one out. See 1 Chronicles 3; Matthew 1:7-12 and Luke 3:27-31.

The way most Fundies fudge the different genealogies between Matthew and Luke is to claim that one (usually Luke's) is actually Mary's and not Joseph's genealogy.

Ok... maybe. The Bible makes no such claim, but maybe...

So, let's simplify the equation. Let's work out the genealogy of Zerubbabel (the hero of Zechariah's and Haggai's prophecies and the Post-Exile "son of David" - Haggai 2 and Zechariah 4).

Why don't these genealogies work out? Why do they contradict one another? You brought it up coadie.
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Evolutionists say this geneology is false. what say you????


23And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

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The first thing we see in a false religion is they claim another religion is not true. Tell us what the true facts are.

What is the jfrog geneology including all names.
I just love these conundrums that exist within the congealed gelatinous knot inside coadie's skull.

Wouldn't this statement (in bold above) actually show that coadie's religion is "false" because he claims other religions are "false" as well?
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You claim to have a touch of science.

Your tissues produce a protein known as alpha-1-antitrypsin which binds to the active site of serine proteases found in tissues & restricts them. So, just as soon as clotting systems became strong enough, gene duplication would have presented natural selection with a workin protease inhibitor that could then evolve into antithrombin, a similar inhibitor that today blocks the action of the primary fibrinogen-cleaving protease, thrombin. The problem the Darwinists can't explain is the co development of anti thrombin and thrombin.
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Now go read Behe and see his take on why clotting evolution couldn't take place. This is why we heparanize a patient before putting them on the pump.
Go read Behe on the matter of humans and apes sharing a common ancestor. He chooses to emphasize what he calls "intelligently designed descent," but it is common descent all the way. Behe is an evolutionist and a believer.

http://www.arn.org/docs/behe/mb_dm11496.htm

Miller and Levine address your misapprehension of the evolution of blood clotting in vertebrates here:

http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/ev.../Clotting.html

Hopefully you are not the one to heparinize the patient since you can't even spell the word.

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Old 10-14-2010, 07:55 PM
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If the foramen magnum (the opening in the skull that the spinal cord goes through) is at the BACK of a skull, then that particular creature primarily move around "on all fours."

If the foramen magnum is at the base of the skull, then that particular critter primarily moved around in an upright posture.

And yes, there was "death before Adam sinned." The life span of the bacteria in Adam's gut (and yours and mine) is only about 3 - 10 days. The trees in the garden could not have lived at all if not for the life-and-death cycle of the fungi and bacteria in the soils around their roots which processed nutrients into a form that the trees could absorb.

Death is an important part of life. Just ask your dinner tonight.

Paul's exposition on how "death came into the world" was never intended to be some sort of microbiological analysis of nature nor was it intended to be a dogmatic expression about what happened to the dinosaurs and other extinct organisms. It was a discussion about sin and the consequences of sin. Your Fundamentalist approach is a novelty of the 19th and 20th centuries and does not represent the theology of the people of God who have come and gone since Adam.
You are learning. I am the one that informed you about the foraman magnum a year or two ago.

So Adams parents died or not?
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I just love these conundrums that exist within the congealed gelatinous knot inside coadie's skull.

Wouldn't this statement (in bold above) actually show that coadie's religion is "false" because he claims other religions are "false" as well?
Thanks for admition evolutionism is a religion for you.
I suspected you would be the main person to take it as a religious position.
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You are learning. I am the one that informed you about the foraman magnum a year or two ago.

So Adams parents died or not?
Wow. That anatomy class in the 80s never happened?

Open a window, dude.

And yes, presumably they died. Probably natural causes. Something "natural" like a cave bear.
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Thanks for admition evolutionism is a religion for you.
I suspected you would be the main person to take it as a religious position.
I sure wish I could say that you were learning. Logic and grammar would be good places for you to start.
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I was a young man with uninformed ideas. I threw out queries, suggestions, wondering all the time over everything; and to my astonishment the ideas took like wildfire. People made a religion of them.”
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Then they wouldn't be your ancestors would they. They be merely ancient.
You dont grasp the concept of (common ancestor)

You also seem to be clueless on the definition of Mitochondrial Eve.
jfrog... don't try and untangle this knot. LOL.

I don't think coadie is even capable of seeing his profound gaff here. He's an amazing train wreck to watch. The sheer colossal spectacle of the failure of his most arrogant assertions convince me that if he were to reread one of his posts he would be so ashamed that he would hide in a cave and never speak again...

... but then, he shows up the next day making the most absurd and arrogant claims all over again. The guy is a wonder to behold. Amazing.
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I was a young man with uninformed ideas. I threw out queries, suggestions, wondering all the time over everything; and to my astonishment the ideas took like wildfire. People made a religion of them.”


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coadie lie

http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/six-t...win-never-said
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