Can Someone be "Apostolic" and Deny Christ is God?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jeffrey

i didn't realize this thread would go so long, judging from the question in the title. Am i missing something? Is there someone who has not recognized the divinity of jesus christ?

timmy!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by mfblume

He said God is weird. (Shudder)

weird (wîrd)
adj. weird·er, weird·est
1. Of, relating to, or suggestive of the preternatural or supernatural.
2. Of a strikingly odd or unusual character; strange.
3. Archaic Of or relating to fate or the Fates.

Forgiving and not forgetting may not be that strange. Lots of people do that, it seems. But the whole setup: forgiving every year, but pushing that forgetting/remitting out over and over (if that's what you're saying happened -- but I bet I'm not getting that, either!), planning to kill Moses just after giving him a job to do (Exodus 4:24), commanding His army to kill everyone but the little girls and keep those for themselves, commanding His people not to mix types of thread in their clothing (and, I guess, repealing that one at some point?), etc. etc. etc.? Definitely odd and unusual and strange. Unique among all sentient beings, probably. Don't you agree? His ways are not our ways, that's for sure!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I didn't realize this thread would go so long, judging from the question in the title. Am I missing something? Is there someone who has not recognized the Divinity of Jesus Christ?

The Father is God without Jesus Christ, but Jesus Christ isn't God. He isn't Divinity, but has Divinity dwelling within Him and proceeded directly from Divinity, His Father.

Jesus Christ is the way to the one Divinity, Yahweh, God, Jehovah.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by mfblume

timmy!

And quite a few Apostolics! At least, they have a hard time articulating just what aspects of Christ are/were divine. Certainly not His flesh (or so the vote goes, so far). So, I guess if you had laid eyes on Jesus back in the day, before His death and resurrection, you wouldn't have said "I saw God". I guess.

[DAII]

Timmy's weird too.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by DAII

Timmy's weird too.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The Father is God without Jesus Christ, but Jesus Christ isn't God. He isn't Divinity, but has Divinity dwelling within Him and proceeded directly from Divinity, His Father.

Jesus Christ is the way to the one Divinity, Yahweh, God, Jehovah.

Are you saying Jesus Christ is not Divine?

Dwelling in him? So he's just like you and me, but with a little more Holy Spirit indwelling? *scratches head*

I'm not even sure which view you represent. That is neither Trinitarian or Oneness.

But I ask again, Is Jesus Christ God? After all, he claimed to be!

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mfblume

He said God is weird. (Shudder)

What's wrong with "Weird"? I'm weird. Come on, we go around all the time bragging about being a "Peculiar people."

I believe Timmy said it, or maybe it was PM, but Gods ways and thoughts are above ours. That's weird.

Do you see a boogeyman behind every corner? Timmy was just expressing his thoughts about the ways of God being different than ours.

[notofworks]

I'm weird.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I'm weird.