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Old 11-13-2009, 01:59 PM
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At what point do they see that as "viable outside of the womb?"
If their heart and lungs are developed enough, maybe. I am sure they have guidelines. But you know there are miracle babies born every day that survive.
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If their heart and lungs are developed enough, maybe. I am sure they have guidelines. But you know there are miracle babies born every day that survive.
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At what point do they see that as "viable outside of the womb?"
The length of pregnancy. Generally after 28 weeks the baby is considered viable. Of course, some babies have been born prematurely earlier than that and survived.

This website says "viable (legally)" at 28 weeks. I think this is the standard of Roe v. Wade, or another case - the beginning of the third trimester?

http://www.dcdoctor.com/pages/rightp...velopment.html
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Old 11-13-2009, 03:13 PM
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If their heart and lungs are developed enough, maybe. I am sure they have guidelines. But you know there are miracle babies born every day that survive.
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These laws will vary from state to state. Each state is in total control of thier legal system.

One state might allow for double murder charge for any pregnant woman where another state might not allow for such a charge even if the baby is past 36 weeks.

jurisdiction rules. I dont know what the UCMJ says about it and in this case that is the jurisdiction.
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The length of pregnancy. Generally after 28 weeks the baby is considered viable. Of course, some babies have been born prematurely earlier than that and survived.

This website says "viable (legally)" at 28 weeks. I think this is the standard of Roe v. Wade, or another case - the beginning of the third trimester?

http://www.dcdoctor.com/pages/rightp...velopment.html
actually Roe allowed for abortion in the first trimester. That has expanded since.


there is quite a bit of debate right now about when a baby is "viable" week 24 is now not unusual and.
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Should Nidal Hasan be charged with the murder of the unborn child as well?

I'm trying to think of a case where they did include the unborn child. Can't put my finger on it, but I thought something was settled on that.
Wisconsin has the law, if someone kills an expectant mother or punches her and the baby dies. They can be charged with murder.
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