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04-03-2007, 11:57 AM
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Men are the Priest of the home
I believe they are to lead spiritually.
Where did the "Husband is Priest" derive from?
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04-03-2007, 12:27 PM
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I'm not really sure exactly where the term came from but I just had a flash of inspiration ... .... concerning Eli who was a priest and had two sons who were called the sons of Belial by Samuel and were very evil men. God sent judgment as a result of Eli not restraining his sons as their father but also in his role as priest.
So I'm thinking this could be part of where this "priest of your home" thing came from in regard to the responsibility a husband and father carries in the home.
I've heard the expression long as I can remember and have used it too, but it was just always used in conjunction with the understanding that the husband was to be a spiritual leader in his home.
Here's the scripture reference to Eli and his sons .....
1 Sa 3:12 In that day I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house: when I begin, I will also make an end.
1Sa 3:13 For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not.
1 Sam. 4:17 And the messenger answered and said, Israel is fled before the Philistines, and there hath been also a great slaughter among the people, and thy two sons also, Hophni and Phinehas, are dead, and the ark of God is taken.
1Sa 4:18 And it came to pass, when he made mention of the ark of God, that he fell from off the seat backward by the side of the gate, and his neck brake, and he died: for he was an old man, and heavy. And he had judged Israel forty years.
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04-03-2007, 12:28 PM
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That's a good point, Felicity.
I was going to add more, but I think it would get a tangent going and I don't want to do that at the outset.
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04-03-2007, 12:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicity
I'm not really sure exactly where the term came from but I just had a flash of inspiration ... .... concerning Eli who was a priest and had two sons who were called the sons of Belial by Samuel and were very evil men. God sent judgment as a result of Eli not restraining his sons as their father but also in his role as priest.
So I'm thinking this could be part of where this "priest of your home" thing came from in regard to the responsibility a husband and father carries in the home.
I've heard the expression long as I can remember and have used it too, but it was just always used in conjunction with the understanding that the husband was to be a spiritual leader in his home.
Here's the scripture reference to Eli and his sons .....
1 Sa 3:12 In that day I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house: when I begin, I will also make an end.
1Sa 3:13 For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not.
1 Sam. 4:17 And the messenger answered and said, Israel is fled before the Philistines, and there hath been also a great slaughter among the people, and thy two sons also, Hophni and Phinehas, are dead, and the ark of God is taken.
1Sa 4:18 And it came to pass, when he made mention of the ark of God, that he fell from off the seat backward by the side of the gate, and his neck brake, and he died: for he was an old man, and heavy. And he had judged Israel forty years.
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Felicity,
In this case I would then apply the term only to ministry fathers...because they are not only the father/spiritual leader, but also the priest in position of Pastor. This would correlate to the position of ELI as the father of the two sons as well as being the Priest.
This is an excellent thought - thank-you for bringing it up.
Blessings, Rhoni
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04-03-2007, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I believe they are to lead spiritually.
Where did the "Husband is Priest" derive from?
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I had heard for years and years directly from the pulpit in the context of admonishing men to get up from the couch to be the "priests of the home".
This is an interesting question, but I am going to repost something...
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Originally Posted by carpenter
Newman, let me disagree with you anecdotally and with a qualification.
I think the term priest is subjective here. You are saying you do not subscribe to the idea that a man hold a position of authority in his home, a position of spiritual authority, someone who has taken a vow of poverty and chastity (edit:removed comment about the condition of marriage that poverty and chastity promotes )??
Of course being a man, I subscribe to domestic priesthood as a man who is vigilant in leading and protecting his family such that they do not follow false and secular doctrines, principals, ideas, etc. There is also a certain responsibility he has to bring harmony with his extended family. There is much that goes along with this such as the proper raising of his children, providing, as well as fortifying his marriage all the while being submitted to the Lord.
You may not recognize this because you have not been called nor do you have that inertia that comes only by being a man called by God to fortify his family.
I believe the family is in crisis today because men do not recognize WHAT being the priest (similar to what I have described) of his home much less actually BEING the priest of his home.
If we are not, then someone or something else will be.
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04-03-2007, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpenter
I had heard for years and years directly from the pulpit in the context of admonishing men to get up from the couch to be the "priests of the home".
This is an interesting question, but I am going to repost something...
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I agree with your post, Carpenter.
I think the question of calling the man the "priest" seemed to take away from the fact that a women is also given the same salvation and rights before the throne of grace through salvation, thus, putting the term "priest" itself in question.
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04-03-2007, 01:16 PM
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Since the man is to be the head thus the leader he should be an intercessor for his family however a leader and an intercessor is not the same as a priest.
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04-03-2007, 01:22 PM
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All believers are kings and PRIESTS.
Rev 1:6 KJV And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
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04-03-2007, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Since the man is to be the head thus the leader he should be an intercessor for his family however a leader and an intercessor is not the same as a priest.
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Could you elaborate on that a little Bro. Epley?
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04-03-2007, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Since the man is to be the head thus the leader he should be an intercessor for his family however a leader and an intercessor is not the same as a priest.
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Exactly right.
I don't think the term is exactly accurate.
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