New Resolution: All local ministers right to vote

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

They already did last spring.

Ours is going up in the fall.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You are right.

We need more of a representative type system

Very true. Not only do I favor all licensed ministers voting, but I also think we need a voice for laity via delegates of some sort. Perhaps, one delegate per hundred church members.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Because if not stacking can take place ... giving some pastors with many local ministers more power in their local areas ...

A Larry Booker ... now WWPF ... could have 15 ministers now voting to make him DS ... I life-long ambition I believe he had and would have capitalized on if he could have stacked votes.

Easty ... It's like our electoral college, bi-cameral legislature and other aspects of federalism in the secular political arena that provide checks and balances over the tyranny of the majority.

So there could be a limit set... say no more than 10 votes coming from one church.

[GraceAmazing]

They raised the dues here in Indiana this year...we don't go to GC anymore because of the registration fees. The last one I attended was the one in Columbus, Ohio.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I don't have the exact wording but I understand the most controversial resolution in Greensboro will be a resolution that gives the right to all UPCI locally licensed ministers the right to vote in all business meetings.

I think this is a fabulous plan on a national level however on a local level it would be disastrous. It would lead to stacking of votes. For example, a person with District Supt. aspirations could license dozens of church members and reap the reward of their support.

Again, I am unsure on the language. I could have it all wrong ... or partially.

I also think absentees should be able to mail or input their votes online. I know missionaries can.

Anyone have the wording?

Maybe someone can post all the resolutions for this year.

Also expect this GC to be lightly attended. I went to the last one in North Carolina a few years ago ... and it was a small crowd. Jerry Jones preached a great message on Acts 12 ... Peter's escape from prison and the role of Rhoda.

What about all licensed ministers WHO COULD NOT MAKE IT TO CONFERENCE be allowed to vote? Has that ever been done yet???

[Sam]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Interesting that you should ask. I pay my dues out of pocket, although my previous pastor allowed me to pay it from the tithes because I was part of the ministry of that particular church. Why do you ask?

I was in the ALJC for a few years.
I replaced a sectional youth leader for a while and then later found out I had to join the organization if I wanted to remain youth leader. I agreed to take a license with the ALJC and asked my pastor, who was at the meeting where I was voted in based on my agreement to be licensed, if I could take my dues out of my tithes. He said I could. Another young minister asked his pastor if he could do that and the pastor said no because he taught that the tithe goes to the pastor and since that was his (the pastor's) money he didn't allow part of his money to pay the dues of some minister.

The org. I'm in now asks for one tenth of the tithe. I send them one tenth of my tithe plus a small offering each month (in addition to annual renewal fee).

[George]

IMO -
All UPCI licensed ministers whether local, general, or ordained, should be allowed to vote (including absentee voting) at district and national levels. Voting at sectional conferences should be pastors only.