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Old 05-30-2008, 07:50 PM
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My friend, this has been happening for a long time now. It has nothing to do with women wearing pants nor with churches becoming more 'liberal'.

Look at the preachers and pastors who have fallen, for instance. They are not only men, but of the ones I know of, they are men thought to be conservative. The problem is the hearts of men and women, not what they are wearing at the moment.

That's a valid point I don't believe it's one single issue.But there are societal reasons for the breakdown in culture. that's what I was referring to
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Okay, now most of you folks who are liberal and believe women can wear pants and men can wear dresses also respect Bro Epley as well, yet he believes this is an abomination. Do you think that perhaps he has a point and might be right or is totally wrong?
I am conservative and I think he is totally wrong.
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Excellent. I just posted the same thing.


But what happens when the heart grows cold ? is there no outward signs in attitude, behavoir , attire , etc
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Okay, now most of you folks who are liberal and believe women can wear pants and men can wear dresses also respect Bro Epley as well, yet he believes this is an abomination. Do you think that perhaps he has a point and might be right or is totally wrong?
I respect his opinion but think he's totally wrong. Men nor women wore pants when that verse was written. It has nothing to do with women wearing pants but with cross dressing. If he believes that women wearing pants is cross dressing, that's his right, but I have to wonder if he'd allow a man wearing women's pants to be on his platform.
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I am conservative and I think he is totally wrong.


By our culture's measure, Yes, for sure, but not by the churches degree.
You'd be considered liberal in many cirlces
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But what happens when the heart grows cold ? is there no outward signs in attitude, behavoir , attire , etc
Sometimes there isn't. I have been in the church for a long time, and since you have as well, I'm sure you have seen people who look the part but definitely have a cold heart in the matters of God.

I'm also sure that you know people who love God and serve Him who don't 'line up' to the ways of the UPCI manual, right?

It's a heart matter, regardless. Whether or not it shows on the outside doesn't matter to God. The heart always tells the truth.
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Okay, now we are making a little progress.

If a man wore a dress made ONLY for women, say the fabric is made from burlap and has litte spikes coming out of it to make it more masculine, wouldn't it still "PERTAIN" to a female's garment since it's a Dress ???

HO, when did pants AND a dress both become a woman's garment but only pants are for men ??
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By our culture's measure, Yes, for sure, but not by the churches degree.
You'd be considered liberal in many cirlces
I'm more moderate, the way I see it, but I agree that others find me liberal.

What matters is how God sees me, amen?
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:59 PM
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Sometimes there isn't. I have been in the church for a long time, and since you have as well, I'm sure you have seen people who look the part but definitely have a cold heart in the matters of God.

I'm also sure that you know people who love God and serve Him who don't 'line up' to the ways of the UPCI manual, right?

It's a heart matter, regardless. Whether or not it shows on the outside doesn't matter to God. The heart always tells the truth.
Yes, there are people who still look the part but their hearts are far from God. I don't think anyone would argue with that. Dress alone does not do the trick HO. No one believes that.

I've seen people who prophecied, spoke in tongues in Japanese(ha! jk) but lived like the devil. so do we do away with the gifts because some amongst are hyprocrites???
DO you see my point?? do we do away with modesty because some are modest on the outside but their hearts are wicked???
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Old 05-30-2008, 08:01 PM
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I'm going to be honest, I don't understand why more people who believe that pants on a women is wrong avoid this topic like the plauge. Why is that???



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