Should U.S. Share Guilt For China Abortions?

[ChristopherHall]

I had mentioned this some time back and was denounced. Here's an interesting article:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=62656

Are we feeding a beast that forces abortion (61 babies per hour) with our free trade policies?

[Hoovie]

I am interested in MOW's comments concerning the info in the link.

It is terrible what happens there - but i don't doubt it.

[Newman]

But how are U.S. residents a part? Because, she told WND, the exploding consumer goods market for Chinese-made products puts pressure on Chinese manufacturers to increase production; they put pressure on workers to put in long hours at the plants, and there's no room in the equation for child-bearing. The result? Forced abortions.

This premise is ridiculous! When I was in China 21 years ago; BEFORE the EXPLODING CONSUMER GOODS MARKET China had a limit of one child per family except for farm families who could have two.

Before this policy was in place millions of Chinese people starved to death. I visited Shanghi when it was more of a rural village than the city of New York that it is more akin to now.

There were very few cars and thousand upon thousands of bicycles. It was so cool to watch the couples with their one child because you could see so much love and hope in that child riding on the back of their bikes.

No, I am not saying abortion is right. But I am saying that China's one child policy was in place before China could feed her own people and the subsequent rising prosperity followed. Can't put the blame on the United States. Sorry. Not buying.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Newman

This premise is ridiculous! When I was in China 21 years ago; BEFORE the EXPLODING CONSUMER GOODS MARKET China had a limit of one child per family except for farm families who could have two.

Before this policy was in place millions of Chinese people starved to death. I visited Shanghi when it was more of a rural village than the city of New York that it is more akin to now.

There were very few cars and thousand upon thousands of bicycles. It was so cool to watch the couples with their one child because you could see so much love and hope in that child riding on the back of their bikes.

No, I am not saying abortion is right. But I am saying that China's one child policy was in place before China could feed her own people and the subsequent rising prosperity followed. Can't put the blame on the United States. Sorry. Not buying.

China is presently a country that forces women to abort as national policy. It could be argued that if one were to support their economy with their dollar...we're funding their system and their policies.

I think the question is...how pro-life are we? Is our pro-life ethic limited to politically addressing voluntary abortion in our own country...but we're perfectly willing to support the economy of China, a nation that forces women to abort, to save $2.99 at Wal-Mart?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I had mentioned this some time back and was denounced. Here's an interesting article:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=62656

Are we feeding a beast that forces abortion (61 babies per hour) with our free trade policies?

The yuppies in America adopt Chinese children , raise them, give them education, and save them from being aborted. We increase the net worth of the Chinese government to the tune of $50,000.00+ per child - so do we cause aboritons, or are we responsible for them? Absolutely not. They only want boy babies to serve in their armed forces and kill the girl babies or adopt them out. The abortion issue is their responsibility alone.

America has it's own 'issues' with abortion.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Newman

This premise is ridiculous! When I was in China 21 years ago; BEFORE the EXPLODING CONSUMER GOODS MARKET China had a limit of one child per family except for farm families who could have two.

Before this policy was in place millions of Chinese people starved to death. I visited Shanghi when it was more of a rural village than the city of New York that it is more akin to now.

There were very few cars and thousand upon thousands of bicycles. It was so cool to watch the couples with their one child because you could see so much love and hope in that child riding on the back of their bikes.

No, I am not saying abortion is right. But I am saying that China's one child policy was in place before China could feed her own people and the subsequent rising prosperity followed. Can't put the blame on the United States. Sorry. Not buying.

A HEARTY Amen to that.

We need to work on civil rights there, as well as religious persecution and trade balance inequities, but blaming the US for their abortion issues???

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

The yuppies in America adopt Chinese children , raise them, give them education, and save them from being aborted. We increase the net worth of the Chinese government to the tune of $50,000.00+ per child - so do we cause aboritons, or are we responsible for them? Absolutely not. They only want boy babies to serve in their armed forces and kill the girl babies or adopt them out. The abortion issue is their responsibility alone.

America has it's own 'issues' with abortion.

Another great response.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

Another great response.

Thank-you!

[ChristopherHall]

Please note: In China it's a governmental policy...it's not even a voluntary act. In America it's voluntary...in China, for many women, it's not. It's a state mandated holocaust.

Imagine with me that we are living in the 40's. German concentration camps are in full swing and the ovens and gas chambers are being used. Would it be ethical to buy goods produced by Germany?

I was thinking about this today when I was at Wal-Mart. My wife handed our son (Noah, going on 2 years) lovely toy car. He giggled and said, "Ca! Ca!", his version of "Car! Car!" I couldn' help but notice the "Made in China" on the package when I was looking for the price. Suddenly the World Net Daily article came to mind. I started to wonder...how many Chinese women were forced to have an abortion in the factory where this toy was made? When I buy this...a good portion of my money will go back to the Chinese economy and a percentage no doubt will find it's way into the coffers of the Chinese government. A government that will pay officials to force a woman to abort. I surveyed the items in the cart...China...China...Taiwan...China...China. My child's fingers clenched the package of this toy car, my child will pay with this toy...how many children will never have a chance to play with a choice like this as a result of China's policy?

As consumers most wouldn't blink an eye. To save a buck. That's the mission. But as Christians...how would Jesus shop? We protest abortion clinics here where women voluntarily have abortions. Should we protest China's inhumane policies that violate human rights and murder the unborn by protesting the largest distributors of their goods? Or do we ignore it and save a dollar?

These are questions that were on my mind tonight as we drove home from Wal-Mart. I'm just as guilty.

[ChristopherHall]

Parents' losses compounded by China's one-child policy
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapc...iref=hpmostpop


From Kyung Lah
CNN

SICHUAN, China (CNN) -- Li Yunxia wipes away tears as rescue crews dig through the ruins of a kindergarten class that has buried her only child -- a 5-year-old boy.

China's one-child policy magnifies the loss parents are feeling after learning their child died in the earthquake.

I've heard it said that God uses earthquakes to speak to the spiritually deaf.

Are we listening?

Brace yourselves.