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Old 03-08-2008, 06:57 PM
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Re: President Barack Obama!

I am going to go play with the dogs. They never get this upset when I make assumptions with them. Dogs really are a man's best friend.
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Old 03-08-2008, 07:39 PM
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I am going to go play with the dogs. They never get this upset when I make assumptions with them. Dogs really are a man's best friend.
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Don't feel bad, we all make assumptions which we regret

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Old 03-18-2008, 07:37 PM
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Simple fact is, there is no reason for the Dems to loose this election.

the ONLY thing that should be in Baraks way is his skin color.
Well, now it appears that his longstanding support of a hate-mongering anti-American race-baiting "preacher" has revealed that he isn't so different from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton after all.

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It appears that as a nation, we might have moved past that bigotry which is a good thing.
Except for portions of the nation that profit by using bigotry as a spring-board for rabble-rousing, self-promotion, and self-preservation. The Rev J. Wright's psychological manipulation of his congregation using fear, suspicion, and envy is a disservice to the cause he supposedly is helping.

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It simply is an insurmountable hill to climb.
au contraire. It's waaaaaaaay to early to call it.

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It appears thatObama is about to be handed 4 years to do his deal. Lets just pray the dammage isnt too great.
It appears that Obama's about to be handed his lunch pail. He's just a Trojan horse variation of the in-your-face activists that have been historically rejected at the voting booth. Nobody wants to be blamed for what their great-grandparents did, and many of us are descended from ancestors who came to this country after the emancipation.
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Old 03-18-2008, 10:42 PM
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Opie Carl,

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Old 03-19-2008, 12:28 AM
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Well, now it appears that his longstanding support of a hate-mongering anti-American race-baiting "preacher" has revealed that he isn't so different from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton after all.
While this preacher's statements are inflammatorty, I see them as expressing an anger at America's sins against his people. It's not hate mongering. If he were condemning America over gays, abortion, socialism, or any of the issues we like to mention we'd see no problem with is statements. But here we have a black minister calling white America on the sins of her past.
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Except for portions of the nation that profit by using bigotry as a spring-board for rabble-rousing, self-promotion, and self-preservation. The Rev J. Wright's psychological manipulation of his congregation using fear, suspicion, and envy is a disservice to the cause he supposedly is helping.
Try to remember, you're a white man condemning a black pastor over his feelings of outrage related to the wrongs his people have suffered.

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Nobody wants to be blamed for what their great-grandparents did, and many of us are descended from ancestors who came to this country after the emancipation.
That's one way to look at it...or maybe it's that so few of us are willing to truly acknowledge the crimes against humanity our ancestors committed. And while many of us may be ancestors from those who came to this country after the emancipation....most of us are not.
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While this preacher's statements are inflammatorty, I see them as expressing an anger at America's sins against his people. It's not hate mongering. If he were condemning America over gays, abortion, socialism, or any of the issues we like to mention we'd see no problem with is statements. But here we have a black minister calling white America on the sins of her past.
Chris,

You really ought to hear some of the recorded preaching segments.
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:25 AM
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News Articl...McCain Takes the Lead in Latest Poll

Latest poll now has John McCain leading Clinton and Obama.


While the Democrats have been cannibalizing each other, it ooks like McCain has crept up on them slowly. This is getting real interesting.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59364

The bottom has dropped out for Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama with a new Gallup daily tracking poll showing him trailing both Hillary Clinton and GOP hopeful John McCain one day after the Illinois senator's refusal to condemn his longtime pastor who suggested the U.S. launched AIDS to decimate blacks.
The new results from Gallup show Clinton with a 49 percent to 42 percent lead over Obama in a national Democratic voters' presidential nomination preference tally.

"This is the first time Clinton has held a statistically significant lead in over a month," the Gallup report said. "She last led Obama in Feb. 7-9 polling, just after the Super Tuesday primaries. Since then, the two candidates have usually been in a statistical tie, but Obama has held a lead in several of the polls, most recently in March 11-13 polling."

Gallup noted the "plague" of controversies that has hit Obama in recent days, mostly connected to the statements of Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., pastor of the senator's home congregation, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.

"Obama delivered a major speech on race Tuesday to try to move beyond the controversy," the Gallup report said. "The initial indications are that the speech has not halted Clinton's gaining momentum, as she led by a similar margin in Tuesday night's polling as compared to Monday night's polling."

The report also said McCain, R-Ariz., and the presumptive GOP nominee, "may be benefiting in the short-term from the highly charged Democratic race."

The report said McCain leads Obama 47 percent to 43 percent in registered voters' preferences for the general presidential election.

"This is the first time any of the candidates has held a statistically significant lead since Gallup Poll Daily tracking began reporting on the general election race last week," the report said.

"McCain's 48 percent to 45 percent advantage over Clinton is not statistically significant, but it is the first time he has had an edge over her in Gallup Poll Daily tracking," the report said.

Gallup is interviewing no fewer than 1,000 U.S. adults nationwide every day, and the general election results are based on responses from March 14-18, which included interviews with 4,376 voters. That leaves a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points.

The Democratic results are based on 1,209 interviews from March 16-18, with a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.
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Gentlemen, it remains very early in this game. Barak will either sink from the current storm he finds himself in or he will survive.

If he survives, he will be stronger for it. That is the nature of politics. AND you can bet that John McCain will not make an issue of this in the general election. It isnt Johns way.

OPCarl, You are dead right on what Obama is.... you said "He's just a Trojan horse variation of the in-your-face activists that have been historically rejected at the voting booth." You could not be more accurate. that Trojan horse activist is a dual type. First we have seen the Jerimiah Wright version, but he is also a hard core leftest trying to come accross as reasonable.

he aint. i still say this is the Dems election to loose.
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You really ought to hear some of the recorded preaching segments.
I have. And I accept that what I'm listening to is a black man who lived in a time of racism and institutionalized discrimination. I don't agree with him, but I am reasonable enough to understand why he feels that way and why he doesn't trust the white establishment.

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I have. And I accept that what I'm listening to is a black man who lived in a time of racism and institutionalized discrimination. I don't agree with him, but I am reasonable enough to understand why he feels that way and why he doesn't trust the white establishment.

All things in context.
LOL! you are both Democrats!

funny.
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