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12-20-2007, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
I had missed that. Point well taken. 
And just for the record and if anyone's still interested, as I argued on another thread, Elfin didn't hack the Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship site.
As Daniel said, Elfin "surfed" the site and the publically accessible pages. |
Normally you would find a non-visible page by scanning the website using hacker tools. I am not saying that this is a case, it could have just been a guess, though that is unlikely.
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12-20-2007, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CC1
I am very surprised to hear that you have no plans to join. I would think you are exatly the demographic this new org. is designed for.
What is your reason for not joining like minded brethern in this new org.? I know that you have said you either already have or are leaving the UPC and this new org. has the cream of the crop of UPC cons and ultra cons heading it up. Many of them I am sure are men you hold in high esteem.
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CC1,
I have stated MANY times on this forum that I do not plan to join. I have, indeed, turned in my license. However, I am quite content to remain "independent" (with regards to an organization -- however, I am not TRULY independent as I have in place a system of accountability with which my church is fully comfortable).
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12-20-2007, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
CC, KP is even stricter than most of the ones heading up This New group.
there are several Ultra cons out here that will attend some of their fellowships but wont join. I think that some of them fear that this group will eventually get too worldly too just like the UPC
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I don't think that is a fair assessment of me. I doubt seriously that I am "even stricter than most of the ones heading up this new group." A number of them are my personal friends, and I think we are pretty much comparable as far as our standards.
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12-20-2007, 08:07 AM
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Go OLLU Armadillos!!!
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Originally Posted by Amos
Another thing--the liberal intelligentsia around here love to tout the ethical high road, and have tried and tried to find some technicality in the manual to hang the Tulsa men over.
How about the ethics involved in going in and copying pages off a web site that was not intended to be released yet? Even if no hacking was needed, that's like walking into someone's house and taking something, and justifying it by saying, "Well, they should have had their door locked if they didn't want me going in there and getting their stuff."
Give me a break.
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Really? You really think it's comparable to burglary? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
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12-20-2007, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dora
Really? You really think it's comparable to burglary? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
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Not perfectly analogous, but certainly not the most ethical thing to do, especially from the folks screaming "Ethics!" at the top of their lungs.
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And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
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12-20-2007, 08:49 AM
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So is the official word ? That the site was hacked ?
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12-20-2007, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
So is the official word ? That the site was hacked ?
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No, it wasn't hacked.
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12-20-2007, 08:51 AM
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Even if it was so what... we all know they arent that stupid! They knew someone was going to find it and they wanted it that way... just another lie in the midst of all the others...
They wanted to feel all big and important all by their lonesome and they got caught and now they cant crawfish fast enough out of this one! Its all stupid seriously!
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12-20-2007, 08:58 AM
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I just heard that many of these men who considered to join this "new" organization, when they found out NW was in charge, said "NO WAY!". LOL
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12-20-2007, 08:58 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
No, it wasn't hacked.
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Kansas Preacher,Amos,Pentecostisalive & others say is was hacked into.
are you saying that they don't what they are talking about?
how do you know it wasn't ?
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