Does a NonFounding pastor have the right to decide whether

the church stays UPCI or leaves without having a church vote???

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Chosen

the church stays UPCI or leaves without having a church vote???

That would depend on the by-laws. Does the church have any? If not, or they do not specify, the next question would be if the church was affiliated. If so, there is another level to consider. If not, it really doesn't matter anyway.

[josh]

A church is only "UPC" if it is affiliated. If it is, then the UPC requires a vote with the district superintendent invited to represent the UPC. He may send a stand-in.

If the church is not affiliated, then they have no say at all because the UPC is fundamentally a preacher's fellowship. The preacher can drop his license. If he doesn't go out under question very little changes.

[seguidordejesus]

I don't understand what a founding pastor has to do with it. It's all about the bylaws.

[Pastor G]

Do you have the right to sell, give or throw away something someone gave you?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Pastor G

Do you have the right to sell, give or throw away something someone gave you?

If you purchased a franchisee - don't you have the right to move the product around to help it sell better?

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

I don't understand what a founding pastor has to do with it. It's all about the bylaws.

Your not on a church board are you?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by PastorD

Your not on a church board are you?

This is a dumb thread.

So what if a church is not Pastored by a founding pastor- what if that Pastor fell in sin? Do we expect the current Pastor to continue and likewise fall in sin? What if the church was a former Trinitarian church fully converted, do we then demand the current Pastor not teach truth.

God forbid we forget God gave Pastors to watch for our souls, giving account for our lives, or having blood on their hands at the time of judgement.

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

This is a dumb thread.

So what if a church is not Pastored by a founding pastor- what if that Pastor fell in sin? Do we expect the current Pastor to continue and likewise fall in sin? What if the church was a former Trinitarian church fully converted, do we then demand the current Pastor not teach truth.

God forbid we forget God gave Pastors to watch for our souls, giving account for our lives, or having blood on their hands at the time of judgement.

can't the bylaws stand in judgement for us?

[Joseph Miller]

Our pastor is not the founding pastor of our church, but he has been there 18 years. If he wanted to pull I doubt he would much trouble getting the church to do so. We trust him and would follow him. I think a lot of churches would do the same with their pastor.