What Difference Does it Make?? Is this Forum REALLY APOSTOLIC?????

[SDG]

Rhoni .... it's ok when they do it ... keep plugging away .... you threaten their monopoly on truth ... Thanks for being you.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Rhoni .... it's ok when they do it ... keep plugging away .... you threaten their monopoly on truth ... Thanks for being you.

Bro. Dan,

You are so sweet to perceive it that way...but I see it more that I make them see things they don't want to see in themselves. I agree that they, and I as well, are Apostolic...but what it means to behave like a Christan may differ.



Blessings, Rhoni

[Tina]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

From the statistics here: I would compare AFF with the Gladiator sport of Roman times when the bloodletting was a sport and man came to watch and cheer the death of a warrior!




My thread got very little attention when it was doing what it was posted to do, entertain and give advice that might help someone on their way...what it was turned into by others:


Coonskinner, RRFORD, Chan, and the hanger's on...was a place to accuse Rhoni of:
#1. Hiding past sins in her life
#2. Using the forum to promote her ministry
#3. Incite rebellion
#4. To bash preachers [when the only one getting bashed was Rhoni]
#5. To discredit my life, my ministry, my profession
This is what got the most attention...the fact men could intimidate, invalidate, destroy reputation of a woman trying her best to live and love God.


This forum could have intelligent and stimulating conversation but the holiest of us all are such as have posted these awful things. They have disrupted the flow of conversations, riddled threads with their judgments, accusations, and their holier than thou attitudes...and then we have Malvaro getting out the buttered popcorn to watch. Many too afraid to come to my defense and those that did...afraid to post more because they too will get bashed.


If I knew how to post all the different posts and line them up for others to look at...I would...but as it is...go to the Dear Rhoni thread and read it for yourself...if you haven't already.


This is what AFF has come to...and who is the one to blame? The spirit of the devil which many give in to in the name of righteousess...

The way I see it is that the reason your thread is now getting so much attention is because of these posts you keep making over in other areas of the forum drawing people over there to "watch" the action. If what happened in that thread was left in that thread, it wouldn't have near as many views or comments that were taking it off track. JMHO.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Tina

The way I see it is that the reason your thread is now getting so much attention is because of these posts you keep making over in other areas of the forum drawing people over there to "watch" the action. If what happened in that thread was left in that thread, it wouldn't have NEAR as many views. JMHO.

I disagree seeing the many views happened after RRFord's post on my thread...but if that is the way you see it...I actually was answering the content of this thread as posted by Carpenter, and I do see the personal attacks as common to this same group of people from FCF, NFCF to AFF...

Goodnewscafe.net is a pleasant place of peace and I don't see people being attacked even when they disagree. The place you gave us for a refuge in between NFCF and AFF was also peaceful.

Do what do you feel is the difference?

Blessigns, Rhoni

[StillStanding]

For the record, I was born and raised UPC. It is my heritage and I love it! I no longer attend a UPC church, but that doesn't mean I don't love and respect the organization. In fact, FCF was started by a UPC lisenced minister!

As far as this forum....over the last four or five years, we have exaustively discussed every issue imaginable! When the same issues are brought up again by newbees, some of us choose to refrain from the discussion as we've already been there and done that!

You will notice that things can get lively when a NEW issue arises!

It kinda' like a marriage...things are lively at first, then it settles down more to a routine.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Sam

Not everyone in the UPC agrees with the UPC in all areas.

Why did you feel the need to repeat that? Isn't that what I said?

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Tina

The thing that I am seeing that REALLY does bother me about this forum is that when someone DOES start a serious type thread... someone comes in and derails the discussion and takes it off on something else totally off the wall-- and the original poster just gives up on the discussion.

Maybe we as admins need to step up in those threads and tell people to take the "playing" out to another thread. But honestly I don't have time to do that kind of babysitting.

People just need to learn to respect the serious discussions enough to stop doing that to the threads. Otherwise, eventually those who are attempting to carry on some serious discussions are just going to give up and leave. JMO. (And that's my personal opinion... not that of the administrative team)

That's what I've seen as well. It seems that there are way more joke threads than anything.....not that there's anything wrong with that, but it would be nice to have more serious discussion that doesn't denegrate into off the wall talk.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I would report this thread but I'll let it stand on its merits .... Jekyll ... am I always on your mind ???

...you will let it stand on its merits? You think you yield that much power that you get to decide which threads continue and which need to be censured?

You thinks too highly of yourself...

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I disagree seeing the many views happened after RRFord's post on my thread...but if that is the way you see it...I actually was answering the content of this thread as posted by Carpenter, and I do see the personal attacks as common to this same group of people from FCF, NFCF to AFF...

Goodnewscafe.net is a pleasant place of peace and I don't see people being attacked even when they disagree. The place you gave us for a refuge in between NFCF and AFF was also peaceful.

Do what do you feel is the difference?

Blessigns, Rhoni

I wasn't dealt with pleasantly or peacefully on GNC. They acted cowardly in my estimation, even when I apologized, I was ignored.

...I'll leave it at that after deleting a bunch of other stuff I just wrote.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

I was speaking with a friend yesterday telling him about this forum, then I received a PM from another friend lamenting about what this community has become.

I am kind of frustrated at a couple of things.

There seems to be somewhat of a silent exodus from this forum of men and ladies that once carried the water in our other forums.

In PMs and such, there is a consistent line throughout their reasoning that "they have had enough of shallow talk, the piling on, unaccountibility, blasting people instead of issues, etc. In addition, this person told me that he/she feels the deeper thinking posts/threads are ignored. Some have said this forum is getting worse than NFCF or FCF on their worst of days.

I am not sure I agree, but that is the point nevertheless.

We are quick to say "So Long" to these people and it is sad. On the other hand the forum is only as good and has as much quality as people are willing to offer.

I have one question...in the mission statement of this forum it implies that folks here are Apostolic. Given some of what I have seen and read...I am seriously questioning if this is indeed true.

In EVERY forum you have folks that don't get involved in the deeper thinking threads either because they are just not interested or because the "deeper thinkers" often ridicule them for not being a deep enough thinker.

On the other hand, if one does not like the shallow talk threads etc etc...they are more than welcome to start their own thread on what ever topic they like. Same goes true on other forums.

And that this is an Apostolic forum does NOT mean we start banning and preventing non-apostolics either. They have an opinion and you Apostolics are welcome and encouraged to refute their opinion or give your own etc etc.

This is an Apostolic board in that the doctrinal position of the board in general is Apostolic. Those non-Apostolics do not represent the board