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Old 08-26-2007, 11:20 AM
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Margie,

This man shouldn't be respected for confessing the crimes he committed against this innocent child. He molested her over a period of years and the only reason he confessed was because he was caught.

This child has to carry this with her the rest of her life and the damage wrought to her has many levels - physical, emotional and spiritual.
I think the word respect is used loosely here. But I understand what Margie and Newman are saying. The courts have to sort out the truth otherwise which is so painful and not always accurate. What the preacher did was spare the child more heartache which is so important. So, respect may not be the perfect word, but it is much better to confess than put the child through more pain. He's already done enough damage.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:22 AM
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This is true and yet I have talked to a woman who was molested by a minister as a young teenager. She absolutly claims peace and victory over this. I believe there are alot of people that could benefit from understanding how she was able to overcome (even when the good ole boys network swept it under the carpet).

The sad reality is that 1 out of 4 girls have been molested as a child and one out of 7 boys. This is something the church needs to talk about and minister to.
Amen. We can add domestic violence to the list of things that need talking about.
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:28 PM
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Why don't you see how many more times you can use the phrase "good ole boy network"?

We get your point. You're bitter. Move on.
No, I'm not bitter. Do you use the word I quite often in conversation? That does not make you an egotist. After it was picked up on, it was discussed. That's all. That's what this forum is about. No use in denying "its" existence though. Let's move on. I agree. Sorry if the point was belabored.
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:32 PM
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Not always... I don't buy this as an excuse.
I wasn't using it as an excuse. I was merely stating that sometimes that is the case. There is no excuse for this type of behavior.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:07 PM
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My God....his poor wife.

And his church...what a horrible valley to have to walk through.

Sad.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:08 PM
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Abused. Abuser. Abused. Absurer. It continues.
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Not always... I don't buy this as an excuse.
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I don't think anyone is offering it as an excuse, because I agree, it really isn't. It's just fact. Sadly so.

Abusers have always existed and always will and there are many different kinds of abuse. It all affects the abused individual in negative ways that they have to deal with eventually and sometimes all their lives.

Educating children doesn't always guarantee protection either. Another sad fact, but a true one too.
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I wasn't using it as an excuse. I was merely stating that sometimes that is the case. There is no excuse for this type of behavior.
Gotcha'! Sorry for assuming you (and/or others) were making excuses.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:10 PM
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My God....his poor wife.

And his church...what a horrible valley to have to walk through.

Sad.
Yes, there will be a lifetime of fallout for a lot of people.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:56 PM
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This man was my presbyter last year. I am in total shock after hearing of this.

My mom goes to another church in that section---her pastor made mention of a pastor that was "being attacked wrongfully"

From all I have seen and heard--he confessed. He certainly isn't the victim and is not being attacked.
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My mom goes to another church in that section---her pastor made mention of a pastor that was "being attacked wrongfully"
The beginning of the GOBN?
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This man was my presbyter last year. I am in total shock after hearing of this.

My mom goes to another church in that section---her pastor made mention of a pastor that was "being attacked wrongfully"

From all I have seen and heard--he confessed. He certainly isn't the victim and is not being attacked.
The man who molested was a presbyter?? God help us!!
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