Do children suffer for sins of their father´s?

Sister Alvear · #1 08-18-2007, 09:58 PM

I am reading a book called, Their stories, Our Stories and it mentions this in regards to Jephthah...what sayest thou?

Sherri · #2 08-18-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I am reading a book called, Their stories, Our Stories and it mentions this in regards to Jephthah...what sayest thou?

I think children "inherit" propensities toward different types of sins from their fathers/grandfathers, etc. They have to fight those things, often even in their early years. I think that's why alcoholism, suicide, adultery, sexual abuse and other sins seem to run in families. It's an inherited sin nature.

RevDWW · #3 08-19-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I think children "inherit" propensities toward different types of sins from their fathers/grandfathers, etc. They have to fight those things, often even in their early years. I think that's why alcoholism, suicide, adultery, sexual abuse and other sins seem to run in families. It's an inherited sin nature.

While I agree, children are not punish directly for the sins of the father, it might be as a consiquence.

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Ezekiel 18:1 - 32 (KJV)
1The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying, 2What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge? 3As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. 4Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. 5But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, 6And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour’s wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman, 7And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment; 8He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man, 9Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.

10If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things, 11And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour’s wife, 12Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination, 13Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. 14Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father’s sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like, 15That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour’s wife, 16Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment, 17That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live. 18As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity. 19Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. 20The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

21But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. 23Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? 24But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. 25Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? 26When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. 27Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. 28Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 29Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?

30Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. 31Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? 32For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

MissBrattified · #4 08-19-2007, 02:44 PM

I agree with DWW....

I don't believe God punishes children for the sins of their father (or mother). (According to scripture.)

Children can bear the natural consequences of their parents' sins and poor choices.

ILG · #5 08-19-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree with DWW....

I don't believe God punishes children for the sins of their father (or mother). (According to scripture.)

Children can bear the natural consequences of their parents' sins and poor choices.

Agreed.

Barb · #6 08-19-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree with DWW....

I don't believe God punishes children for the sins of their father (or mother). (According to scripture.)

Children can bear the natural consequences of their parents' sins and poor choices.

Yeah...what she said...

Sherri · #7 08-19-2007, 06:00 PM

I don't believe that God punishes anyone for anyone else's sins, including their fathers. But I do believe that children can inherit weaknesses in their flesh nature, that are passed from generation to generation unless the curse is broken by the blood of Jesus.

stmatthew · #8 08-19-2007, 06:03 PM

Actually, until born again, all mankind is suffering for the sins of their father of humanity, Adam.

ILG · #9 08-20-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Actually, until born again, all mankind is suffering for the sins of their father of humanity, Adam.

I guess we all do even afterwards.

Digging4Truth · #10 08-20-2007, 10:50 AM

Also in Jeremiah...

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Jer 31:29 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
Jer 31:30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

And Hebrews recalls these verses letting us know that this NT salvation is that new covenant.