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Old 02-24-2007, 05:09 PM
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THe Current PCI Beliefs

I would venture to guess that on AFF folks with "PCI Beliefs" concerning salvation differ as much as the Oneness understanding differs from Apostolic to Apostolic. I think it would be interesting to see if that is a correct surmising. So would those of you that are what we call PCI in doctrine please explain where you stand in regards to salvation.
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Old 02-24-2007, 05:26 PM
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Sure, why not?

Sincere repentance and surrender of one's life to Jesus Christ makes one rapture ready.

Water Baptism is to be done in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ (in whatever form) The initial receiving of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Water baptism and HGB are necessary. The question is, necessary for what?
My answer is obedience and power.

There you have it. That's where I stand and I'm stickin' to it!
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Old 02-24-2007, 05:27 PM
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Sure, why not?

Sincere repentance and surrender of one's life to Jesus Christ makes one rapture ready.

Water Baptism is to be done in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ (in whatever form) The initial receiving of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Water baptism and HGB are necessary. The question is, necessary for what?
My answer is obedience and power.

There you have it. That's where I stand and I'm stickin' to it!
Ditto.
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Old 02-24-2007, 05:48 PM
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Sure, why not?

Sincere repentance and surrender of one's life to Jesus Christ makes one rapture ready.

Water Baptism is to be done in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ (in whatever form) The initial receiving of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Water baptism and HGB are necessary. The question is, necessary for what?
My answer is obedience and power.

There you have it. That's where I stand and I'm stickin' to it!
Very nice short and concise answer! I agree with you!
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Old 02-24-2007, 05:54 PM
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Sure, why not?

Sincere repentance and surrender of one's life to Jesus Christ makes one rapture ready.

Water Baptism is to be done in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ (in whatever form) The initial receiving of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Water baptism and HGB are necessary. The question is, necessary for what?
My answer is obedience and power.

There you have it. That's where I stand and I'm stickin' to it!
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Old 02-24-2007, 06:06 PM
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Sure, why not?

Sincere repentance and surrender of one's life to Jesus Christ makes one rapture ready.

Water Baptism is to be done in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ (in whatever form) The initial receiving of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Water baptism and HGB are necessary. The question is, necessary for what?
My answer is obedience and power.

There you have it. That's where I stand and I'm stickin' to it!
Would Noah have been saved without building and entering into the ark?
Would Namaan have been cleansed without dipping 7 times?
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1. Repentance, being sorry, and turning from sin, brings forgiveness of sin. The Blood of Christ, shed at the death of Christ, takes away our sin when we die to sin at repentance. A p[erson who has truly repented and had his soul cleasned by the Blood of Christ, is ready to meet the Lord.

2. Once a person repents, he should be instucted as to the purpose of water baptism and, as an act of obedience to the Word of God, is to be baptized in water by immersion in the Name of Jesus Christ. This is his response of obedience to being a child of God.

3. God gave the promise of the Holy Ghost as enduement of power enabling us to live a victorious Christian life, and through the Holy Ghost, we are raise in newness of Life. The baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

4. A Christian is to live a godly life that goes beyond a mere dress code. All that he does, with special emphasis on conduct and conversation, is to be holy. He is to keep himself unspotted from the world and live a life in conformity to the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.
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Would Noah have been saved without building and entering into the ark?
Would Namaan have been cleansed without dipping 7 times?


Your point would be?
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Would Noah have been saved without building and entering into the ark?
Would Namaan have been cleansed without dipping 7 times?
Would either of them done those things without faith?
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Would Noah have been saved without building and entering into the ark?
Would Namaan have been cleansed without dipping 7 times?
Nope and Nope. But that has nothing to do with water. Its does, however, have everything to do with obedience. Water didn't save Noah, nor did water heal Naaman. Even Hebrews states "BY faith, Noah..." Faith (obeying and responding to the word) is what saves us. Not water. Water baptism is our response of obedience for what Jesus did for us at repentance.
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